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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishb View Post
    I know what you mean man. When I look at my crown using the 2 mirror technique, it looks ok.

    But today in the sun, it can either look like the 1st or 3rd picture, or depending on the camera's focus/light exposure, so the sun really shines, it can look like the 2nd picture! What do you think of the pics?

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    I'm gonna try and find old pics of my crown too, but it's gonna be hard.

    Anyhow, thanks for all your help man, will be shaving it off soon thanks to you.
    I honestly don't know, Under the sun anyone can look like their thinning because the light directly penetrates where ur crown is same goes for flash and stuff, I see this often on sunny days.
    How is ur hairline? Has it matured? You could also ask someone if ur family if they've noticed ur crown before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vurog View Post
    I honestly don't know, Under the sun anyone can look like their thinning because the light directly penetrates where ur crown is same goes for flash and stuff, I see this often on sunny days.
    How is ur hairline? Has it matured? You could also ask someone if ur family if they've noticed ur crown before.
    Hairline is the same since I was like 16, no changes, which leads me to believe that my crown is pretty much the same then.

    I know now to take pics both in the sun and under normal lighting conditions to compare in a few months time.

    Thanks for all the answers bro and sorry for butting into your thread, I'm gonna try and see some hair specialists soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishb View Post
    Hairline is the same since I was like 16, no changes, which leads me to believe that my crown is pretty much the same then.

    I know now to take pics both in the sun and under normal lighting conditions to compare in a few months time.

    Thanks for all the answers bro and sorry for butting into your thread, I'm gonna try and see some hair specialists soon.
    Yeah, try not to over obsess it, I know its hard but its the best thing you can do.
    But sometimes MBP can start at the crown rather than the hairline however.

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    Yeah I've read that too. It's just when I place a mirror on top even with sunlight, it seems perfectly fine.

    I'm gonna try and remain level headed until I see an expert.

    Thanks man

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    You have zero hair loss. You're lucky. Maybe you will lose some in many years but that's way off and most guys will.

    Forget about it. Genuinely, or it can becomr an obsession.

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    Hey guys.. I know many of you have said that I have perfectly normal hair, but it's really really difficult to not obsess over this.
    I don't know if I have BDD or something, but its getting to the point where I take a picture of my hair every hour or so to see how it looks.
    I also noticed something across the side of my head which connects to my crown, is this normal for thin/fine hair or is it the start of diffuse pattern alopecia?

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    Bumping this thread, Can anyone please reply to my previous post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vurog View Post
    Bumping this thread, Can anyone please reply to my previous post?

    Hey man, it's me again. Best advice I can give bro is to go get checked out by a hair surgeon/dermatologist/trichologist [that is a member of a recognised body] (in that order of preference), as everyone here will just be giving opinions without any medical education. I have been researching crowns now for about a month and in all honesty, your crown looks fine. Camera flash and direct sunlight will always make it look worse. Furthermore, I find that phone cameras over saturate dark things, well I think iPhones do, I can't comment on other smartphone cameras but i'm guessing they're quite similar.

    For example, sit down on a chair and take your smartphone and point it to the floor (my floor is a light cream colour) and tap it so it focusses. The colour shouldn't change, Now move the direction of the camera so it's looking it at a dark pair of jeans that you're wearing and tap your jeans to focus. BAM, the shot saturates as the camera opens it's lens to let more light in. Now imagine what it does to your black/brown hair!

    Hopefully the camera example makes sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishb View Post
    Hey man, it's me again. Best advice I can give bro is to go get checked out by a hair surgeon/dermatologist/trichologist [that is a member of a recognised body] (in that order of preference), as everyone here will just be giving opinions without any medical education. I have been researching crowns now for about a month and in all honesty, your crown looks fine. Camera flash and direct sunlight will always make it look worse. Furthermore, I find that phone cameras over saturate dark things, well I think iPhones do, I can't comment on other smartphone cameras but i'm guessing they're quite similar.

    For example, sit down on a chair and take your smartphone and point it to the floor (my floor is a light cream colour) and tap it so it focusses. The colour shouldn't change, Now move the direction of the camera so it's looking it at a dark pair of jeans that you're wearing and tap your jeans to focus. BAM, the shot saturates as the camera opens it's lens to let more light in. Now imagine what it does to your black/brown hair!

    Hopefully the camera example makes sense!
    Thanks, I'm not in my home town right now because of Uni but once I go back I'll definitely see a specialist, what bothers me the most is that I've never really seen myself before with this short hair so I don't know whats normal or what isn't for me. I've always worn my hair very long since the age of 15/16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vurog View Post
    Thanks, I'm not in my home town right now because of Uni but once I go back I'll definitely see a specialist, what bothers me the most is that I've never really seen myself before with this short hair so I don't know whats normal or what isn't for me. I've always worn my hair very long since the age of 15/16.
    While you're waiting to see a specialist, I think it's imperative that you seek out a counselor or psychologist of some sort through your school to help you deal with this stress. I struggled with OCD for 20 years before I finally got it under control, so I understand how the obsessing part works. It can be a complicated process, and I do think it's something you should talk to a professional about, as they'll be able to evaluate you personally and give you a specific regimen that would really work for you.

    For example, here's something you could try: Every time you have the urge to take a picture of your hair and analyze it, do something else. Anything. Read a book. Turn on a song. Write something. Anything at all to distract you (granted it's something healthy and not destructive). Think of this obsession with your hair as a monster that wants to take over your life, and every time you give in to the monster and analyze your hair, you feed it and it grows stronger. The more you obsess, the stronger the obsession grow. The more comfortable you're able to get with the uncomfortable feeling that you may be losing your hair, the weaker that monster becomes and the less power it has.

    I think this could be a good starting point for you. It seems you have two separate issues you need to address with a professional, one being your hair. However, regardless of that situation, you need to learn better coping mechanisms for dealing with stress of this nature, and that's something you need a psychologist for. I suggest you seek that out as soon as possible so you can start having less stress in your days.

    I hope that's of some help to you. Keep that head up!

    I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff.

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