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  • TheKingofFighters
    Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 87

    hi so is the AR inhibitor u're talking about the cure?

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    • Kokles
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 23

      Is it so hard to take and post pictures? A visible improvement in hair density is what we're after. I've had insanely great results with minoxidil alone.. even smudgy old phone photos shown massive overall increase in density.

      Swiss posted pictures and they are beyond laughable.. he also thinks he "hacked" it

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      • Kokles
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 23

        Is it so hard to take and post pictures? A visible improvement in hair density is what we're after. I've had insanely great results with minoxidil alone.. even smudgy old phone photos shown massive overall increase in density.

        Swiss posted pictures and they are beyond laughable.. he also thinks he "hacked" it

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        • fred970
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 924

          Originally posted by Kokles
          Is it so hard to take and post pictures? A visible improvement in hair density is what we're after. I've had insanely great results with minoxidil alone.. even smudgy old phone photos shown massive overall increase in density.

          Swiss posted pictures and they are beyond laughable.. he also thinks he "hacked" it
          This, it would be so easy to post results if these people had any.

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          • Hemo
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 142

            Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
            Sure pictures can help but it doesn't mean people have to be d*cks about it, brushing him off as a troll or trying to sell anything right off the bat in the very first page. Some people just like seeing the bad everyone, they don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Anyway, he says this is far away from even being done at all, so just the theory alone was interesting. What's pictures gonna do, make this thread another 50 page thread of members talking about how a better treatment is near 10 years from now? That is why I post on this site 2-3 times a year now, because every thread is all about treatments that are coming 5 years from now but then those treatments get pushed back to another 5-10 years. What happened to all those treatments that were being talked about, and there was pictures for them? They're not even mentioned here anymore. Pictures can mean something or they can mean nothing. His findings, in theory, are better than pictures. I mean i'm not going ot sit here and claim I understand everything the guy wrote, but I did read the entire thing and it was interesting and I kinda get the concept he is talking about.
            Yes, but his/her last post was largely about the amount of effort that goes into this kind of research/discovery, only to be snubbed by the scientific community and public. If there's proof (e.g. pictures), that is one hell of a way to convince people.

            Even if we knew it would take another 5-10 years, at least we know it's coming.

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            • sdsurfin
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 713

              You ranted a lot about the scientific process but did not address any one of my points about your science. Also, propecia is very effective at stopping hair loss in most people who take it (like 80 percent or something). If non-androgen compounds were so important to turning on the AR and the balding process, then why is this true? Also again, why does your theory imply that replicel "won't work"? if the problem lies in the AR, then surely replacing AR sensitive cells with new ones is a good idea. So is something like histogen which essentially drowns out the AR's signals. You make very sweeping statements about what will and wont work, and then show no proof that your ideas work at all. It's very hard to take any of this seriously when you have no evidence, even if your idea is legit, which it might be. How is this supposed to be useful to anyone if you don't put it into action? I don't think you're trying to make money (though maybe you should be). If you have proof that it works and can get hair scientists to back you up, I'm sure with some effort you could get things rolling somewhere, even if its japan or europe and not is the US.

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              • jamesst11
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 1110

                Originally posted by sdsurfin
                You ranted a lot about the scientific process but did not address any one of my points about your science. Also, propecia is very effective at stopping hair loss in most people who take it (like 80 percent or something). If non-androgen compounds were so important to turning on the AR and the balding process, then why is this true? Also again, why does your theory imply that replicel "won't work"? if the problem lies in the AR, then surely replacing AR sensitive cells with new ones is a good idea. So is something like histogen which essentially drowns out the AR's signals. You make very sweeping statements about what will and wont work, and then show no proof that your ideas work at all. It's very hard to take any of this seriously when you have no evidence, even if your idea is legit, which it might be. How is this supposed to be useful to anyone if you don't put it into action? I don't think you're trying to make money (though maybe you should be). If you have proof that it works and can get hair scientists to back you up, I'm sure with some effort you could get things rolling somewhere, even if its japan or europe and not is the US.
                propecia is not 80% effective in stopping hair loss... that's complete BS

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                • Tenma
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 172

                  Originally posted by jamesst11
                  propecia is not 80% effective in stopping hair loss... that's complete BS
                  youre right james, propecia stops the balding process in 90+ percent of people, not only 80% LOL

                  Finasteride 1 mg is indicated for the treatment of men with androgenetic alopecia (AGA). However, more than 5 years efficacy and safety has not been previously reported. To assess the efficacy over 10 years in different age groups of men with AGA. 118 men, between 20 and 61 years, with AGA receiving …

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                  • doinmyheadin
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 129

                    Originally posted by sdsurfin
                    You ranted a lot about the scientific process but did not address any one of my points about your science. Also, propecia is very effective at stopping hair loss in most people who take it (like 80 percent or something). If non-androgen compounds were so important to turning on the AR and the balding process, then why is this true? Also again, why does your theory imply that replicel "won't work"? if the problem lies in the AR, then surely replacing AR sensitive cells with new ones is a good idea. So is something like histogen which essentially drowns out the AR's signals. You make very sweeping statements about what will and wont work, and then show no proof that your ideas work at all. It's very hard to take any of this seriously when you have no evidence, even if your idea is legit, which it might be. How is this supposed to be useful to anyone if you don't put it into action? I don't think you're trying to make money (though maybe you should be). If you have proof that it works and can get hair scientists to back you up, I'm sure with some effort you could get things rolling somewhere, even if its japan or europe and not is the US.
                    What happened with Follicept?

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                    • xHELLSEHERx
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 2

                      Originally posted by Tenma
                      youre right james, propecia stops the balding process in 90+ percent of people, not only 80% LOL

                      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21910805
                      It didn't help me at all! To see any result you need 3 to 6 months, then after 1/2 years it does not work for most guys. That is my observation. Maybe wrong, or right!

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                      • Spaceboy
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 20

                        Yeah, the 90+% wake up feeling like shit and can't get it up/gyno too. Fin definitely can help/work to halt or slow the inevitable , but for a lot of people that comes at a steep price.

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                        • jamesst11
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 1110

                          Originally posted by Tenma
                          youre right james, propecia stops the balding process in 90+ percent of people, not only 80% LOL

                          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21910805
                          I have thoroughly read hundreds of research papers and published articles through my 6 years attaining my masters degree in cellular and molecular bio, and have even published two myself. I know for a fact that this is complete bullshit.

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                          • jamesst11
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 1110

                            I would say that propecia HELPS MAINTAIN in 50-60% of people who regularly use it and can bare the side effects. That is more accurate.

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                            • Justinian
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 148

                              Originally posted by jamesst11
                              I would say that propecia HELPS MAINTAIN in 50-60% of people who regularly use it and can bare the side effects. That is more accurate.
                              Do you have facts to back that up with?

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                              • jamesst11
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 1110

                                nope, that's why I prefaced that statement with, "i would say"... believe what you want to man, but 80-90% is WAY OFF.

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