Replicel Sets The Record Straight

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  • Thinning87
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 847

    #16
    Originally posted by Hubris
    I think for anyone less than a NW5, this treatment could be highly beneficial. Consider the possibilities for a diffuse thinner with an intact hairline.
    Yeah like me... right now! Not in 4 years...

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    • PayDay
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 604

      #17
      Originally posted by Thinning87
      Yeah like me... right now! Not in 4 years...
      I agree, I'm glad they shared the fact the it only works if you catch the hair in its anagen phase. It gives us a better idea of what can really be accomplished. For very bald men, a combination of a treatment like this and hair transplants might be the answer.

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      • dutchguyhanging
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 89

        #18
        Originally posted by PayDay
        I agree, I'm glad they shared the fact the it only works if you catch the hair in its anagen phase. It gives us a better idea of what can really be accomplished. For very bald men, a combination of a treatment like this and hair transplants might be the answer.
        my approach is simple 0 or 1. if replicel works as it claims to be then should even work for NW7.. if it doesnt, then it means NW1 has also potential to be NW7 in future...

        because hairloss is not something like any other disease. it goes with ageing and never stops or goes away.. it is 0 or 1. if u start losing ur hair then u have a long way to go till your 70s 80s..

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        • Delphi
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 546

          #19
          Originally posted by dutchguyhanging
          my approach is simple 0 or 1. if replicel works as it claims to be then should even work for NW7.. if it doesnt, then it means NW1 has also potential to be NW7 in future...

          because hairloss is not something like any other disease. it goes with ageing and never stops or goes away.. it is 0 or 1. if u start losing ur hair then u have a long way to go till your 70s 80s..
          I'm trying to understand your post. Are you saying that unless it can turn a NW7 to an NW1 you don't think it has any value?

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          • dutchguyhanging
            Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 89

            #20
            Originally posted by Delphi
            I'm trying to understand your post. Are you saying that unless it can turn a NW7 to an NW1 you don't think it has any value?
            no.. i am saying if u cant turn a NW7 to NW1 then it means this product wont work for everyone, just like fin and minox not working for everyone. hairloss is even worse than cancer because u cant cure it.. it wont stop it will always progress, slowly but surely or aggressively.. it is like fighting against ageing...

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            • pick
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 37

              #21
              I am so confused. If it actually "catches" those hair at the right phase, will it de-miniaturize it?

              Or will it just let it not get any more miniaturized?

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              • Hubris
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 120

                #22
                Originally posted by pick
                I am so confused. If it actually "catches" those hair at the right phase, will it de-miniaturize it?

                Or will it just let it not get any more miniaturized?
                The following is just speculation. There's probably going to be a cut-off point. I would imagine that if Replicel can protect the hair follicle from the effects of DHT before it becomes too damaged, then the hair follicle would repair itself and return to a terminal length and diameter. This would be why we often see regrowth with Finasteride. The drug gives the hair follicle a chance to recover, before it is slowly overwhelmed again by our bodies never ending supply of DHT.

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                • pick
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 37

                  #23
                  ok. so Histogen and Repliclel seem like new alternatives for Minoxidil and Propecia.

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                  • Hubris
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 120

                    #24
                    Originally posted by pick
                    ok. so Histogen and Repliclel seem like new alternatives for Minoxidil and Propecia.
                    Replicel is the better alternative to Propecia, yes. Minoxidil could still be used in conjunction with Histogen so I would not technically call it an alternative. Theoretically, in the future a person could utilize Replicel, Histogen, Minoxidil, Bimatoprost, SM04554 and Piloscopy. In fact, if just one of those products currently in clinical trials comes to market, it is a game changer for many of us.

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                    • jamesst11
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1111

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pick
                      ok. so Histogen and Repliclel seem like new alternatives for Minoxidil and Propecia.
                      That is apples and oranges my friend. These technologies differ so drastically in how they affect you at the cellular and molecular level that it's pointless to even compare. In my opinion, finasteride is primative as hell compared to what histogen and replicel are trying to accomplish. Finasteride is like shooting a slingshot at an elephant, while Histogen's protocol, if it truly is what they say it is, is targeting it with a high power sniper rifle. F*ck finasteride and f*ck minoxidil, seriously. I am not saying this out of bitterness as both of these have offered something to me... but they are PRIMATIVE AND WE NEED BETTER ALTERNATIVES.

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                      • PayDay
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 604

                        #26
                        Originally posted by pick
                        ok. so Histogen and Repliclel seem like new alternatives for Minoxidil and Propecia.
                        Not even close. These cell based therapies are game changing and so far are showing very promising results without risk of adverse side effects. This is a very big deal!

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                        • Follisket
                          Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 61

                          #27
                          How is any of this a game changer, when it may very well offer hardly any regrowth at all?
                          Sure, maintenance treatments would be awesome - if they were available right now or within months from now. But a goddamn maintenance treatment that is going to come out years from now? Are you shitting me? Many of us have already lost a lot of hair and this ****er of a disease works sickeningly fast.

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                          • pick
                            Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 37

                            #28
                            Originally posted by PayDay
                            Not even close. These cell based therapies are game changing and so far are showing very promising results without risk of adverse side effects. This is a very big deal!
                            I am just saying the most ideal outcome of Minoxidil = most ideal outcome of Histogen and most ideal outcome of Procecia is most ideal outcome of Replicel.

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                            • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 342

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Follisket
                              How is any of this a game changer, when it may very well offer hardly any regrowth at all?
                              Sure, maintenance treatments would be awesome - if they were available right now or within months from now. But a goddamn maintenance treatment that is going to come out years from now? Are you shitting me? Many of us have already lost a lot of hair and this ****er of a disease works sickeningly fast.
                              Well it would certainly make me more open to the idea of a hair transplant if I could be confident I wouldn't carry on losing hair, and having to play catch up with more transplants, and from a donor area that isn't big enough to carry on doing that indefinitely anyway.

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                              • PinotQ
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 188

                                #30
                                Great update and any progress is encouraging. But one line of questioning I would like to see on the next interview would be a more detailed focus on the method of culturing. My understanding is that the major problem with culturing and re-injecting cells is that cultured cells lose their inductivity with each pass in culture. As many of you may recall, Aaron Gardener, who worked with one of the various research teams, said on this forum over a year ago that their team had only succeeded in reaching 60% inductivity (retaining 60% of their cellular characteristics) and that was with dermal papillae cells. He had also mentioned that no one at the time had succeeded in having any sort of success rate in culturing dermal sheath cup cells (no inductivity). Since that time, a greater degree of success has been reported in culturing cells with something called 3 dimensional culturing. Personally, I think the whole key lies in attaining a method of culturing that retains all of the cell's characteristics each time they are multiplied in culture. I would be curious as to Replicel's thoughts on this subject.

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