Bridge to 2018?

[BoSox]

Since Shiseido expect to have the cure on the market by 2018, what treatment coming out will bridge us to that point? I've been having a hard time recently with my situation, unable to grow my hair any longer than half an inch and it's really ****ing depressing. I can no longer hide my thinning with concealers, and my hair line is getting much much worse.

What will help us with thinning hair before Shiseido saves us? Shouldn't we already have something by now? I know I need to be more patient, because the hair congress meeting or w/e is coming up soon. I've just been having a really hard time lately, especially being back in college. I need some sort of relief, or hope :/

[Arieux]

I am in the same situation, let's hope that SM will be in the market at the end of 2016, and it would be better than the 'bridge' to 2018. I am waiting for the hair congress for the news about it and maybe about Bim.

If not I will just do in 3 years Replicel to stop further loss and big HT with good doctor.

[dus]

Since Shiseido expect to have the cure on the market by 2018, what treatment coming out will bridge us to that point? I've been having a hard time recently with my situation, unable to grow my hair any longer than half an inch and it's really ****ing depressing. I can no longer hide my thinning with concealers, and my hair line is getting much much worse.

What will help us with thinning hair before Shiseido saves us? Shouldn't we already have something by now? I know I need to be more patient, because the hair congress meeting or w/e is coming up soon. I've just been having a really hard time lately, especially being back in college. I need some sort of relief, or hope :/

Fin / RU / Minox / close thread.

[baldybald]

Fin / RU / Minox / close thread.

If it worked for you does not mean that It will work for him.
Bosox bro, am sorry for what you are going through but you are not alone. There are millions of people are going through the same situation as yours or even worse. I became NW 6 when I was 23 but am shaving my head now waiting for the cure so the only thing you can do is to wait. Sorry

[burtandernie]

Maybe the question is of all the new stuff what is most likely to hit market first? Seti, SM, or CB? For the next few years you really need to use what exists now as mentioned above.

[champpy]

I too feel your pain man. Ive tried everything available. Everything. It just keeps falling out. Ive been on OC for 3 months now and there are times when it seems to slow the loss to about half, but then it picks right back up again after a week. I really dont understand that at all.

I think SM has the greatest chance but it may be laaaate 2016 at the earliest.

I think if anything does actually prove to work our best bet for an early release will be someone getting it on the black market before the product actually releases. like if kane can get the formula for SM then it's possible he can sell it way before anyone else

[baldybald]

In fact, I heard that today's show "The Doctors" mentioned follica is preparing the cure for baldness but gonna be ready after 8 years, is that right guys ?

[chongmet]

I too feel your pain man. Ive tried everything available. Everything. It just keeps falling out. Ive been on OC for 3 months now and there are times when it seems to slow the loss to about half, but then it picks right back up again after a week. I really dont understand that at all.

I think SM has the greatest chance but it may be laaaate 2016 at the earliest.

I think if anything does actually prove to work our best bet for an early release will be someone getting it on the black market before the product actually releases. like if kane can get the formula for SM then it's possible he can sell it way before anyone else

Can you explain more about SM and what makes him different than other treatments?

[JayM]

In fact, I heard that today's show "The Doctors" mentioned follica is preparing the cure for baldness but gonna be ready after 8 years, is that right guys ?

On the market in 8 years? would mean that trials would start very soon

[Arieux]

In fact, I heard that today's show "The Doctors" mentioned follica is preparing the cure for baldness but gonna be ready after 8 years, is that right guys ?

Is it avaiable online? Could you link this show?

[macbeth81]

Samumed will not complete SM04554 Phase 2 trials until January 2016 (biopsy study). They will require a Phase 3 unless the laws change (haven't yet). Then you add time for the FDA to review/approve. Then how long will it take to get production/distribution ready for commercializing? I highly doubt all this will all happen in less than 12 months. It took them longer to transition from Phase I to Phase II. I cannot see 2016 being realistic.

Maybe 2019. Cosmo is at a similar state and they are projecting release in 2021, and they should already have a version for acne approved & released.

Until then, see dus's post.

[baldybald]

I read online that somebody saw the show but I did not see the show myself

[TooMuchHairWontKillYou]

I expect SM in 2017, hope for 2016

[Arieux]

CB had to have longer phases of trial because it's not for regrowth, like SM, but for prevention. But even that isn't an explanation of such a long time of waiting for CB, if Cosmo can make product with it for acne few years sooner.

When it comes to Follica, I don't know really what to think. In a interview with dr Cotsarelis from 2014, it was said that

Follica's phase 2 trial completed recently with promising results. But they have insufficient funds to continue with further trials. So at this point everything has been put on hold.

however:

full blown cure using Follica's method for an already bald person is still many years away.

So maybe that 8 years refers to that version of Follica for already bald people?
(source: http://www.****************/interact...elis-Interview)

[JayM]

Right but wasn't the phase2 for the wounding mechanism? As I was aware they haven't done any phases regarding the medium which will have FGF/sonic/WNT mainpulation ect. I assume they just do the same process that pilofocus went through in regards to getting FDA approval for the mechanical/chemical wounding process. Wesley didn't have to register on clinicaltrials.gov as I'm aware, but again not certain so please correct me as it will only benefit this thread.

If I'm wrong and infact follica just didn't need to register their clinical trials or I'm looking in the wrong place then please help me out haha.

But yes you are right in saying there could many different treatments. Maybe they have found good results with a medium not including FGF ect, so doesn't really create many new follicles ect. A treatment which would create a full head of hair from bald might need to go all the way back to phase1 hence the 20 million.