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Originally Posted by JayM
Wha? Replicel and sheishedo entered into a partnership and because of the regulations in Japan it could be on the Japanese market by 2018. It's the same technology replicel always had. Hopefully the delays mean they have improved the medicore results they had and to be fair they said they have improved the technology. It's all on the replicel/sheishedo thread as mentioned before.
that was just the POC results and it showed it definitely did something. They've definitely changed it a bit since then as that was like two years ago and they are just starting phase II now, does anyone have those results handy, i dont recall if they were 6 months after treatment or 12.
either way they definitely impressed sheishedo behind the scenes because you dont get a backer like that without showing proof of results to some extent, look at histogen, they had decent results and couldn't get any funding.
we'll see soon, Replicel is a bit behind some other treatments but there's no reason to scoff at it yet.
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Julio, apologies if my tone came across as rude mate I just felt like this belonged in the replicel/sheishedo thread and without the buzz words of cure ect. To be fair in this article they do keep mentioning IPS cells which is different to the original treatment? But I think someone mentioned it was probably a mistranslation. I think in the latest presentation they gave out last month was the same technique so it most likely is.
To be fair for me its the resistance to androgens which makes me the most excited. If they can do that to the majority of my follicles then great and solve the rest with a HT. 10,000 on the hairline please haha. And if it does that with amazing regrowth then there wont be a HT industry anymore.
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Take it Easy My friend, no problem.
Sometimes I do not have time to read all the forum threads, as a matter of extreme interest to all, I decided to share this information. I had not found the subjects in the generic posts. Anyway, I hope this scientific breakthrough actually reach the market soon. We are all anxious.
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http://youtu.be/oKRwlNuDMU0
http://youtu.be/-p0Hvrx093I
Very interesting!
By the way the videos were taken from hair loss cure website.
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Hi everyone,
everytime I see this video from Shiseido, i have a issue to understand, what they are saying when: "hereditary baldness cant use our technology".. After all, Male pattern baldness is an androgenetic alopecia... hereditary baldness.
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These news are spreading worldwide. I am from Brazil (although now I live in Australia) and everybody there thinks the cure for baldness was found because Shiseido news.
I sent Replicel an email around 2 months ago (they will actually reply if you send it) and asked about regrowth. They said that the method is focused on stoping further hair loss and not giving regrowth. However they claim their technology is also able to form NEW follicles, aside from waking up the dormant ones we already have. So I wonder if increasing the number of injections won't lead to a full head of hair. I know it would be pricey but as you are saying, if it would give me back all hair I had before, I would gladly pay for that.
For example, if we got only 15% of regrowth with this, maybe we would just need around 7 injections to form new follicles and get 100% satisfaction? (I'm not saying it will be possible and I'm excluding the possibility of it being dangerous, I'm just wondering)
Being a 22 years old girl losing her hair since the age of 14, it is hard not to be both anxious and excited about it.
What do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by luiza
However they claim their technology is also able to form NEW follicles, aside from waking up the dormant ones we already have.
They confirmed it also on their facebook fanpage yesterday:
will the cure for hairloss work for only awakening the dormant follicles or also to create new follicles ? I mean what for those people which have no follicles left ?
Thank you for your question. Our animal models showed both happening and we have designed our phase 2 trial to include biopsies from some of the subjects so we can look beneath the skin to analyze how the cells react to dormant hair follicles and if new follicles are created. We anticipate starting our phase 2 trial before the end of this year.
And when it comes to price, there was a long discussion on *** about it based on one interview from 2014: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/37757...#sp=show-clips
About minute 3, he claimed, that estimated cost of the treatment inluding cell cultivation will be around 3-5k dollars. But this price refers to their treatment of tendon injuries, nevertheless it is good orientation point. They have never showed the price for treating baldness, because it will be dependent on the doses. And dosing problem will be analysed exactly in their phase starting this year.
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That's good, Arieux! Is it in Replicel's or Shiseido's page?!
I want to believe it is the cure but at the same time I am afraid of having high hopes and then getting disappointed
And when it comes to price, there was a long discussion on *** about it based on one interview from 2014: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/37757...#sp=show-clips
About minute 3, he claimed, that estimated cost of the treatment inluding cell cultivation will be around 3-5k dollars. But this price refers to their treatment of tendon injuries, nevertheless it is good orientation point. They have never showed the price for treating baldness, because it will be dependent on the doses. And dosing problem will be analysed exactly in their phase starting this year.
If it will be around $5k per treatment and I would get more and more hair with every treatment, I would definitely pay for 5 sessions or even more hahah I just want my hair back
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The quote from their facebook page basically confirms the "cure" talk is total BS and up in the air...they admit they still don't know how dormant follicles will react, which to me is the main factor when discussing a true cure.
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