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    http://en.rocketnews24.com/ - is this site creditable?
    Tried to find any other source - nothing.
    Many times discussed that new law, allows shisheido (if they started phase 2 this spring) to come into market during phase 2.
    Just going from replicell pipeline - they claim that phase 2 will be crossed for one year, and i belive japaneses will make it faster, because japaneses always have ambitions to be first in the world. Even take a worse scenario - japaneses will take 2 years for phase 2. Why author of article wrote that it will be in 2018 and not 2017 for example?
    I wish a cure come as soon as possible. Already saving money to be in first lines. Anybody has some contacts with Shisheido to spill the light on this question about their pipeline? Do they have any dedicated page for curing baldness?
    Also interesting question - everybody knows that such radical solution is mostly for hard Norwoods, light norwoods like 2-3.5 can use some drugs to save hair. But what gonna do those light norwoods when a cure will come? They have too much hairs for paying a tons of money to cover a small bald spots and in same time they know that sooner or later they will become bald even with drugs (or simply tired of regimen). Are light norwoods will trying to find a way for fast losing hairs with future seeding hair cells? In this situation Norwood 6 looks much more profitably, because he lost his weak hairs and is ready to get full head of hair that resisting to baldness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayM View Post
    Really?! Have I just read the title of this post and the first line is sheishedo?

    Please you have over 200 posts have you not visited the cutting edge section?
    What´s the problem with his post? Maybe Replicel really has something for 2018.

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    This was posted yesterday. As Rdawg pointed out, this is Replicel's technology, although never stated in the article. Unless Replicel/Sheishedo have drastically improved results, this will be no were near a cure. I wouldn't be surprised if 2018 is delayed unless they start trials soon. Anyway, Japan is late. Wasn't Aderans suppose to be released this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul73 View Post
    What´s the problem with his post? Maybe Replicel really has something for 2018.
    They are aiming for stopping hairloss but their treatment will be low on regrowth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's2014ComeOnAlready View Post
    If it's $30,000, I'd gladly try and get a loan. If it means I don't ever have to worry about hair, or fin again? That is a bargain imo.
    It'd be the best 30,000 dollars I'd spend.... ever. Talk about improving the quality of your life. Priceless.

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    Haha I did mean British pounds but I just rolled a figure out there as we just don't know. Sheishedo has a massive set up in Japan and has all the networking ect so who knows. I only rolled 30k cuz after that money your not gonna have much donor left.

    Paul73. There is a thread which is like millions of pages long about replicel on this forum. You throw a title like that out and I would expect something more than a company which published some of its first ideas about its treatments in like 2003. I'm not arguing replicel has something, I think they do but this isn't IFLS why say 'cure in 2018!' why not post this link in the replicel threads?

    Newbies will click on this and be swayed by buzz words when really they could visit a thread with replicels mediocre results, delayed timelines and revised new timelines.

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    Isn't a Replicel research. Both companys made a deal and now get together.

    For me, there is no sense about the value that you sad, about 30k dollars, because is too expensive. I think that we need more time and all those informations about the price are speculations.

    2018 is coming, not an impossible date.

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    Wha? Replicel and sheishedo entered into a partnership and because of the regulations in Japan it could be on the Japanese market by 2018. It's the same technology replicel always had. Hopefully the delays mean they have improved the medicore results they had and to be fair they said they have improved the technology. It's all on the replicel/sheishedo thread as mentioned before.

    30k was mentioned as a marker for what would be reasonable to pay in terms of getting a nw1. This is because currently if you exhaust the donor area, with a surgeon in the u.k it could cost this amount, maybe more.

    You have over 200 posts why have you not read this? They are partners. Replicel have also stated when this passes stage 3 in America, they will look for another partner like sheishedo who specialise in delivering this treatment. Again noted in the other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayM View Post
    Wha? Replicel and sheishedo entered into a partnership and because of the regulations in Japan it could be on the Japanese market by 2018. It's the same technology replicel always had. Hopefully the delays mean they have improved the medicore results they had and to be fair they said they have improved the technology. It's all on the replicel/sheishedo thread as mentioned before.
    that was just the POC results and it showed it definitely did something. They've definitely changed it a bit since then as that was like two years ago and they are just starting phase II now, does anyone have those results handy, i dont recall if they were 6 months after treatment or 12.

    either way they definitely impressed sheishedo behind the scenes because you dont get a backer like that without showing proof of results to some extent, look at histogen, they had decent results and couldn't get any funding.

    we'll see soon, Replicel is a bit behind some other treatments but there's no reason to scoff at it yet.

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    Julio, apologies if my tone came across as rude mate I just felt like this belonged in the replicel/sheishedo thread and without the buzz words of cure ect. To be fair in this article they do keep mentioning IPS cells which is different to the original treatment? But I think someone mentioned it was probably a mistranslation. I think in the latest presentation they gave out last month was the same technique so it most likely is.

    To be fair for me its the resistance to androgens which makes me the most excited. If they can do that to the majority of my follicles then great and solve the rest with a HT. 10,000 on the hairline please haha. And if it does that with amazing regrowth then there wont be a HT industry anymore.

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