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  • aceman
    Member
    • May 2015
    • 30

    New effective 3rd treatment option??

    So I went to a dermatologist to discuss some skin issues, and also asked about hair loss. To my surprise the doc said there are 3 official and effective treatment options. Of course we all know the 2 - minox and finasteride. I was like, what the heck is this 3rd treatment??

    Doc said it's a new scalp injection that combines Triamcinolone and Progesterone. The drugs are not new, and they have previously been prescribed separately for various types of hair loss among other uses. However the doc said it is very recent that these two are being combined into a topical injection for male pattern baldness, and the results are good. Supposedly there are only a select few places that do it, primarily in major cities like LA and NYC. I live in SF and they said they are one of 2-3 places in SF that does it.

    They said that since it is injected topically into the scalp, there are no sexual side effects like finasteride pill, even though the injection contains hormones. The results are also probably not as good as finasteride, but it is better than minox as far as what they have seen. Basically, safer than fin, more effective than minox.

    Best of all, it is only 1 injection a month for 4 months. That's it. 4 injections total to see good results. After that you probably need like 1 injection every 2-3 months to maintain. Basically, very low maintenance.

    What I also was surprised with is that it is covered by insurance, so you just pay a copay! Out of curiosity I asked how much it would cost without insurance, and it was just 120 bux a shot. Not bad at all. But yes, insurance covers so you only pay like 20 bux or 40 bux or whatever your copay is.

    Mind you, this is not a hair clinic or hair specialist, I avoid those because all they're trying to do is try and sell you crap. This is a legit dermatologist office, board certified, multiple ivy league degrees, 5 star yelp reviews, etc. They were definitely not trying to sell me shit.

    So my question is, have you guys heard of this??? You think it is legit?? Has anyone tried those drugs separately? Together? Let me know your thoughts.
  • Mrbarrybadger
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 9

    #2
    Following this just to see replys

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    • Gerhard
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 101

      #3
      Anyone here capable of commenting on this? This is quite interesting. The selectivity of cities is killer though.

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      • Not giving up
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 166

        #4
        Seems a little unlikely this could have come out with no attention doesn't it?

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        • aceman
          Member
          • May 2015
          • 30

          #5
          I was also surprised that I have never heard of it. The ingredients have been used for hair loss before tho.

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          • Ziggyz123
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 368

            #6
            Yeah this is questionable.

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            • warner8
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 352

              #7
              in regards to the triamcimalone, i read on drugs.com that is was effective in hair loss, but i think its for a different type of hair loss than make pattern baldness. from the comments ppl mentioned, it sounded as though their hairless was not from male pattern baldness or something dht related, but from some other medical condition than results in hairless.

              ive spoken to two derms in the last year about hairless and none of them mentioned it to me.

              i am about to receive a compounded minox with progesterone and hydrocortisone, and wonder if it will make a difference, be it not injectable, but topical

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              • Ziggyz123
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 368

                #8
                Originally posted by warner8
                in regards to the triamcimalone, i read on drugs.com that is was effective in hair loss, but i think its for a different type of hair loss than make pattern baldness. from the comments ppl mentioned, it sounded as though their hairless was not from male pattern baldness or something dht related, but from some other medical condition than results in hairless.

                ive spoken to two derms in the last year about hairless and none of them mentioned it to me.

                i am about to receive a compounded minox with progesterone and hydrocortisone, and wonder if it will make a difference, be it not injectable, but topical
                That compounded Minox solution sounds promising. Where did you order that from? And best of luck!

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                • aceman
                  Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 30

                  #9
                  Originally posted by warner8
                  in regards to the triamcimalone, i read on drugs.com that is was effective in hair loss, but i think its for a different type of hair loss than make pattern baldness. from the comments ppl mentioned, it sounded as though their hairless was not from male pattern baldness or something dht related, but from some other medical condition than results in hairless.

                  ive spoken to two derms in the last year about hairless and none of them mentioned it to me.

                  i am about to receive a compounded minox with progesterone and hydrocortisone, and wonder if it will make a difference, be it not injectable, but topical
                  Dude, sounds like it's "almost" exactly the same thing as I am talking about. Hydrocortisone is a type of corticosteroid, as is triamcinolone. Both are used for similar medical conditions. I am not a chemist but even if it is not the exact same, they are similar enough. The dermatologist I was talking to also recommended using the injection in conjunction with Minox.

                  What you are getting is just a topical cream version of the injection I am talking about. Maybe different dermas offer different treatments, but the concepts seem the same.

                  So yes, it seems like these treatments are out there.


                  By the way, let us know how it works out.
                  Last edited by aceman; 07-05-2015, 03:48 PM. Reason: typo

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                  • warner8
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 352

                    #10
                    if i definitely see a difference, I will make the forum know.

                    Originally posted by aceman
                    Dude, sounds like it's "almost" exactly the same thing as I am talking about. Hydrocortisone is a type of corticosteroid, as is triamcinolone. Both are used for similar medical conditions. I am not a chemist but even if it is not the exact same, they are similar enough. The dermatologist I was talking to also recommended using the injection in conjunction with Minox.

                    What you are getting is just a topical cream version of the injection I am talking about. Maybe different dermas offer different treatments, but the concepts seem the same.

                    So yes, it seems like these treatments are out there.


                    By the way, let us know how it works out.

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                    • NeedHairASAP
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1410

                      #11
                      Originally posted by warner8
                      if i definitely see a difference, I will make the forum know.
                      so.... where in LA and NYC?

                      That would be good to know

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                      • Hemo
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 142

                        #12
                        Hmm, when I was in high school I developed a random bald spot on the side of my head, probably about 1"x3". My dermatologist injected it with a corticosteroid and it regrew, but I obviously don't remember much about her explanation. I wonder if this is something similar. (obviously I wasn't suffering from MPB at the time, so I'm hesitant to think it would work similarly).

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                        • Ziggyz123
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 368

                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Hemo
                          Hmm, when I was in high school I developed a random bald spot on the side of my head, probably about 1"x3". My dermatologist injected it with a corticosteroid and it regrew, but I obviously don't remember much about her explanation. I wonder if this is something similar. (obviously I wasn't suffering from MPB at the time, so I'm hesitant to think it would work similarly).
                          I thought about getting a steroid shot because I recently had weird pattern of hairloss on one side that was painful, but supposedly it thins your scalp out and that's terrible for hair

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                          • NeedHairASAP
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1410

                            #14
                            Originally posted by aceman
                            So I went to a dermatologist to discuss some skin issues, and also asked about hair loss. To my surprise the doc said there are 3 official and effective treatment options. Of course we all know the 2 - minox and finasteride. I was like, what the heck is this 3rd treatment??

                            Doc said it's a new scalp injection that combines Triamcinolone and Progesterone. The drugs are not new, and they have previously been prescribed separately for various types of hair loss among other uses. However the doc said it is very recent that these two are being combined into a topical injection for male pattern baldness, and the results are good. Supposedly there are only a select few places that do it, primarily in major cities like LA and NYC. I live in SF and they said they are one of 2-3 places in SF that does it.

                            They said that since it is injected topically into the scalp, there are no sexual side effects like finasteride pill, even though the injection contains hormones. The results are also probably not as good as finasteride, but it is better than minox as far as what they have seen. Basically, safer than fin, more effective than minox.

                            Best of all, it is only 1 injection a month for 4 months. That's it. 4 injections total to see good results. After that you probably need like 1 injection every 2-3 months to maintain. Basically, very low maintenance.

                            What I also was surprised with is that it is covered by insurance, so you just pay a copay! Out of curiosity I asked how much it would cost without insurance, and it was just 120 bux a shot. Not bad at all. But yes, insurance covers so you only pay like 20 bux or 40 bux or whatever your copay is.

                            Mind you, this is not a hair clinic or hair specialist, I avoid those because all they're trying to do is try and sell you crap. This is a legit dermatologist office, board certified, multiple ivy league degrees, 5 star yelp reviews, etc. They were definitely not trying to sell me shit.

                            So my question is, have you guys heard of this??? You think it is legit?? Has anyone tried those drugs separately? Together? Let me know your thoughts.


                            Where is this available in NYC? What office? I am interesting in trying it.

                            interesting research on progesterone in this blog post:

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