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  • AlmostUndone
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 127

    WHY do you need to find a wound pic with the same angle as in the "before" pictures. Wouldn't it be possible as well to seek "before" pictures with the same angle as in available wound pics. (I have a lot of before pictures which you've never seen. Let me have a look...)

    In the meanwhile, here are a few (maybe new, maybe not) wound pics from that location:

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      Originally posted by AlmostUndone
      WHY do you need to find a wound pic with the same angle as in the "before" pictures. Wouldn't it be possible as well to seek "before" pictures with the same angle as in available wound pics. (I have a lot of before pictures which you've never seen. Let me have a look...)

      In the meanwhile, here are a few (maybe new, maybe not) wound pics from that location:
      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...addendum2_.jpg

      Well recipient analysis is really quite difficult it turns out. I mean I know the upper part is correct, I know the right part is correct but more inwards man it's just really hard to pinpoint each graft and know with certainty that it's a transplanted graft: the combo of dying hair in that area with newly transplanted hair makes it really difficult to determine everything with great confidence.

      At this point I'm getting really bored with it and honestly am about to give up.

      Besides, man, we've seen the donor loss, we've seen 1200 grafts were lost for 800 grafts, we've seen in previous cases that 1.5 hair/graft seems to be the hasci average, so this whole recipient analysis is quite useless to begin with. It would have been nice if we also could have analysed the recipient and know exactly how many hairs grew, because I think it would show a net hair *loss* because of grafts that failed to grow, but unfortunately it's really hard to do that.

      If anyone believes hair multiplication took place when 1200 hairs are now gone from the donor, then I think they'd need to have their head checked.

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      • censur
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 110

        Well, Arashi, it seems that you are right about HST being a scam after all. You truly are a hero at this forum for your efforts.
        It would be nice with some real 100 % proof though. I always give people the benefit of a doubt until proven guilty.

        What are you people thinking now regarding a class action lawsuit against HASCI?

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        • AlmostUndone
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 127

          I've been always busy. Maybe Spencer should do a coverage. Years ago he wanted to get information on whether it works or not. I promise I will do my utmost to take my own analysis to the goal, if Spencer would be interested (maybe ask the clinic for an interview? or just get the truth out?).

          Unless Spencer is interested, I don't wanna use too much time on this.

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          • AlmostUndone
            Senior Member
            • May 2015
            • 127

            Ah, screw it! I seem to have found a way to link most the stuff together. I think there might be an update this month...

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              Nice!

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              • cocacola
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 222

                Thank you for doing this!

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                • AlmostUndone
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 127

                  Here's what I'm currently doing. Having pizza and connecting:

                  Link


                  Angle differences getting smaller. Maybe there's some way to make counting still easier. I have to think what I'm gonna do next. Ideas?


                  EDIT: Ah sorry forgot to include one pair of pics for the middle section.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    Originally posted by AlmostUndone
                    Here's what I'm currently doing. Having pizza and connecting:

                    Link


                    Angle differences getting smaller. Maybe there's some way to make counting still easier. I have to think what I'm gonna do next. Ideas?
                    Hey how are you doing AlmostUndone. Your link doesn't work. I've linked most of the pictures in my previous work already, although some were harder to link because of the angles, maybe you're talking about that ? Anyway about the pictures that I did link: I'm 100% confident they're linked correctly. It's quite easy to verify: the further away from the temples, the more the pre and post situations resemble and thus the easier it becomes to verify. But I guess you've already seen that and are now trying to link some of the pics that I didnt link ?

                    Good luck and let me know if I can help out with idea's !

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                    • AlmostUndone
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 127

                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      Hey how are you doing AlmostUndone. Your link doesn't work. I've linked most of the pictures in my previous work already, although some were harder to link because of the angles, maybe you're talking about that ? Anyway about the pictures that I did link: I'm 100% confident they're linked correctly. It's quite easy to verify: the further away from the temples, the more the pre and post situations resemble and thus the easier it becomes to verify. But I guess you've already seen that and are now trying to link some of the pics that I didnt link ?

                      Good luck and let me know if I can help out with idea's !
                      What are you talking about angles, angles? I used those same wound pictures, and the angles seem to match very well with the after-pictures. Just look:
                      Link

                      I'm not quite done yet (still working on the purple guidelines/flocculation). Everything was done from scratch.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        Originally posted by AlmostUndone
                        What are you talking about angles, angles? I used those same wound pictures, and the angles seem to match very well with the after-pictures. Just look:
                        Link

                        I'm not quite done yet (still working on the purple guidelines/flocculation). Everything was done from scratch.
                        Hey, great work ! I'm also happy that you're starting from scratch. One of my problems was that there are still some errors in my work and that I haven't found them yet. I mean sometimes you start working from the left and when you then go from the right to that point, it 'should add up', but in my work it sometimes doesnt. So I'm sure it would be best if you just neglect my work and only look at it when you're done, so you dont make the same errors.

                        What I mean with angles: I initially thought that if I'd rotate the pictures to get the same perspective, that also the angles of the hairs would match. I mean in 1 pic for example all hair points down, so I figured that if I'd rotate another pic of pretty much the same area, that the hairs would also point down. But this is not the case for some pics. I think this is because of the differences in angle that you had between your camera and your hair. Anyway it complicates comparing the pics because either the perspective changes (two hairs that were vertically aligned are not vertically aligned anymore) or the direction of the hair changes, which makes comparison much harder.

                        Only some pics have this problem though.

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                        • AlmostUndone
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 127

                          Which one is pic one?

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            Originally posted by AlmostUndone
                            Which one is pic one?
                            Where I said '1 pic' I implied 'some pic'. I am not at home right now but I will post an example of what I mean.

                            Anyway good to see you're working on this, I had given up hope to get a good analysis of recipient but we might get there now. Good luck!

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                            • long4hair
                              Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 75

                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              Where I said '1 pic' I implied 'some pic'. I am not at home right now but I will post an example of what I mean.

                              Anyway good to see you're working on this, I had given up hope to get a good analysis of recipient but we might get there now. Good luck!
                              You did good work here Arishi. It's pretty apparent that HASCI is a failure at donor regeneration.

                              Now we have to hope that Pilofocus will result in donor regeneration. I think there's a good chance Pilofocus will achieve good donor regeneraton. Are you going to do a Pilofocus hair transplant if Dr. Wesley reports excellent donor regeneration?

                              And if Dr. Wesley reports excellent donor regeneration are you going to investigate his results like you're doing with HASCI?

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                              • AlmostUndone
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2015
                                • 127

                                I made a promise for an update.

                                Actually, the analysis for the left side of my recipient was just completed:

                                Link


                                The after-situation reveals 676 hairs grown out. Included was a total of 375 holes and wounds they made. And 1.8 hairs per hole/wound is the average. (You can find the numbers chart annexed within the image file.)

                                There isn't much else to do there. I might still loot for some better quality "after" pics. Secondly, I find the doctor sometimes had the grafts placed very very close to still existing hairs; this would mean that included into the result are sometimes some original hairs which existed previously to the procedure. (For example, what about wound #183?) Nitpicking the "before procedure" -pics could tell us that the total of new hairs is slightly less than 676.

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