HASCI - -How well does it work? Now we'll be able to find out!

[AlmostUndone]

Have a look. This here is the entire used donor zone, 7 weeks before my visit to Holland.
Left part: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozpg49kdx7...0side.png?dl=0
Right part: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3c13237n8z...0side.png?dl=0

As you can see, I haven't worked on the extraction holes any more than necessary in order to just get this idea, about how the photos oughta be used, - which ones, where, how much. And it's possible those extraction holes aren't 100% accurate. The red borders which split the images, however, should be very specific and hopefully very accurate, too.

Hmm, there are still a few better quality images, which I have not yet used, and which I would like to use.... But I need a big break right now! It's already taken much time and energy drinks to split the donor area into this many parts so far. (There's also an example there, I think on the right part of the donor, of how even a poor quality image may sometimes be useful only due to fact that it was shot from a completely another perspective. I saved a lot of poor quality images, as well.)

[AlmostUndone]

I am quite certain there is one piece missing from the file "right part", but ya know..... lots of things to keep track of.

[Arashi]

How is it going ? In one week you're at your 1 month point, right ? Most hair in donor should have grown back by then, according to HASCI, so we can do the analysis soon !

[AlmostUndone]

Arashi, it's way too early for the clippers; the skin of the donor is now somewhat "shiny" (still depigmented?) compared to the surrounding surfaces, and the hair may still look 'patchy'. Please understand, at this time there are eyes on me every day.

I think there is still some regrowth occurring. Sorry I don't have very fresh pictures, but here are some earlier ones:


Regrowth day 7

Regrowth day 7

Regrowth day 17

[AlmostUndone]

By the way Arashi, did you look at the donor area photography? You see, I kept going through the material, and discovered many wonderful "before" -photos, which hadn't caught my attention earlier on. Photos which will be useful in getting a sharper view on a lot of the hairs. I'm pretty far ahead on sewing the photos together. Improvement suggestions are always welcome.

I have a very important question: Which image viewing software did you use for the photos?

[Arashi]

By the way Arashi, did you look at the donor area photography? You see, I kept going through the material, and discovered many wonderful "before" -photos, which hadn't caught my attention earlier on. Photos which will be useful in getting a sharper view on a lot of the hairs. I'm pretty far ahead on sewing the photos together. Improvement suggestions are always welcome.

I have a very important question: Which image viewing software did you use for the photos?

Well if you feel 1 month is too soon, you could do the analysis at 3 months. HASCI did do it too at 3 months. But they showed a photo for 1 month and most hair had 'regrown' (LOL) then.

About image viewing tool, I just used the normal windows tools (paint, image viewer). And I think I used some tool to rotate pics, not sure what it was called, I think it was 'irfanview"

[AlmostUndone]

Well if you feel 1 month is too soon, you could do the analysis at 3 months. HASCI did do it too at 3 months. But they showed a photo for 1 month and most hair had 'regrown' (LOL) then.

Either way, in the study paper ("Donor hair follicle preservation by partial follicular unit extraction") there was no definite statement about how much hair had regenerated after 1 month. I'll see if hairs have grown thick enough that I can photograph them at 3 or 4 months; my current camera (the one I used for shooting the extraction points) is nowhere as good as the one I'm going to rent for documenting the final result.

About image viewing tool, I just used the normal windows tools (paint, image viewer.

Of course you did! Which is what you shouldn't use. Look at the comparison below. The first picture version is how the graphics look in the Mac OS viewer, Google's Picasa viewer, Photoshop, Gimp, and probably in all browsers as well. The second version is how it looks in Windows Photo Viewer / Photo Gallery.

Link to image


(I'd bet this happens because of antialiasing. All photoviewers have antialiasing methods for making the picture look pleasant, when you zoom out. This antialiasing is not supposed to be there in a zoomed in image, but the Windows photo viewing software applies it indiscriminately. Or there might be some compression error in Windows.)

[Arashi]

Either way, in the study paper ("Donor hair follicle preservation by partial follicular unit extraction") there was no definite statement about how much hair had regenerated after 1 month. I'll see if hairs have grown thick enough that I can photograph them at 3 or 4 months; my current camera (the one I used for shooting the extraction points) is nowhere as good as the one I'm going to rent for documenting the final result.



Of course you did! Which is what you shouldn't use. Look at the comparison below. The first picture version is how the graphics look in the Mac OS viewer, Google's Picasa viewer, Photoshop, Gimp, and probably in all browsers as well. The second version is how it looks in Windows Photo Viewer / Photo Gallery.

Link to image


(I'd bet this happens because of antialiasing. All photoviewers have antialiasing methods for making the picture look pleasant, when you zoom out. This antialiasing is not supposed to be there in a zoomed in image, but the Windows photo viewing software applies it indiscriminately. Or there might be some compression error in Windows.)

Hey, nice find, without anti aliasing it indeed looks a bit clearer, should make the analysis a bit easier ! Yeah I think the 3 month mark is the best to go for, cause they mention the results specifically for 3 months. So 2 more months. Yet you could do the analysis of the surgery already, research on how many hairs were extracted exactly

[Arashi]

Hey Almostundone, next week you're at 2 months I think ? Did you do the initial analysis already (comparing pre surgery to post surgery) ?

[AlmostUndone]

Hey Almostundone, next week you're at 2 months I think ? Did you do the initial analysis already (comparing pre surgery to post surgery) ?

Almost 2 months, yeah! Donor looks maybe a bit thicker than it did one month ago. Sorry, but you're gonna have to wait to September. Right now I have very, very much work. I might bring you the pre-op material sooner, but looks like whatever time-off I have goes into traveling etc. etc.

[Arashi]

Almost 2 months, yeah! Donor looks maybe a bit thicker than it did one month ago. Sorry, but you're gonna have to wait to September. Right now I have very, very much work. I might bring you the pre-op material sooner, but looks like whatever time-off I have goes into traveling etc. etc.

Nah no worries mate. Personally I think it's a bit waste of time, we have enough proof that it doesn't work. But it would be the cherry on the cake to show it using a complete analysis of HST surgery.

[jamesst11]

I think what we need is the HASCI procedure to be immediately followed by a three week application of Follicept. Then in order for the hair follicles to begin regeneration, the head needs to be emerged in an ice bath, while wearing a laser helmet followed by onion and garlic therapy. that one's for you Arashi.

[Arashi]

How are you doing mate ? Just checking up on you, since you're almost at the 3 months now so you could start doing the analysis, at least the pre-post surgery part and when that's finished you can do the rest. You are still planning to do this, right ?

[caddarik79]

hope it will not be like for Gaz and the guy will disappear, vanish, when it starts to be really interesting.

[AlmostUndone]

Very busy ATM... But I haven't been hit by a bus yet, no. I'll report back when there's something more substantial