StayThick's Follicept Trial (4 week treatment)

[potato1987]

Sorry Staythick, to clarify you have continued with the trial? have you had any more negative reactions at all?

many thanks,

[StayThick]

Sorry Staythick, to clarify you have continued with the trial? have you had any more negative reactions at all?

many thanks,

Sorry Potato, didn't see this question. Yes, I have continued with the treatment. I currently have 6 dosages left of my 12 week treatment so I'm halfway done at this point.

Outside of that single worrisome shed, I have not had any adverse effects on the other applications. I think my hair might have reacted to something in the gel at that time, but I can't say for certain or even if Follicept is really to blame. I just know I had a severe itch and a very bad and noticeable shed a few hours removed from that 2nd dose.

I'm glad I did not cease treatment because again so far nothing negative to report which is always good I guess.

[NeedHairASAP]

Sorry Potato, didn't see this question. Yes, I have continued with the treatment. I currently have 6 dosages left of my 12 week treatment so I'm halfway done at this point.

Outside of that single worrisome shed, I have not had any adverse effects on the other applications. I think my hair might have reacted to something in the gel at that time, but I can't say for certain or even if Follicept is really to blame. I just know I had a severe itch and a very bad and noticeable shed a few hours removed from that 2nd dose.

I'm glad I did not cease treatment because again so far nothing negative to report which is always good I guess.

Unfortunately, barring an act of god, we can pretty much assume your 4 weeks of treatment will do nothing...

unless it really "kicks in" your igf-1 and results occur over the months post-treatment.... but I'd put this in the acts-of-god bucket.

[StayThick]

Unfortunately, barring an act of god, we can pretty much assume your 4 weeks of treatment will do nothing...

unless it really "kicks in" your igf-1 and results occur over the months post-treatment.... but I'd put this in the acts-of-god bucket.

NeedHair, you almost certainly could be right, but I like to remain cautiously optimistic about this whole thing.

Most of the subjects in the trial before me have completed their treatments and based on what I have seen/read, I don't expect to see any results personally prior to my last dosage. However, maybe it can change in the month or months following, but there is no way to know for sure.

I'll be updating everyone throughout, but nothing to report currently in the form of positive or negative results.

[NeedHairASAP]

NeedHair, you almost certainly could be right, but I like to remain cautiously optimistic about this whole thing.

Most of the subjects in the trial before me have completed their treatments and based on what I have seen/read, I don't expect to see any results personally prior to my last dosage. However, maybe it can change in the month or months following, but there is no way to know for sure.

I'll be updating everyone throughout, but nothing to report currently in the form of positive or negative results.

Didn't mean to sound so negative.

1. What you're doing is worth trying

2. I, and I'm sure others, appreciate you taking the time to trial and document

[Hemo]

To be honest, I think we can ignore half of Follicept's participants. The only 3 that really matter are Devon, participant #1 and Dr. Hsu (the others are beyond help outside of transplants), so good that they have a 4th more realistic participant in StayThick. I still don't think it will work but at least they can conclusively say so by using representative subjects.

[StayThick]

To be honest, I think we can ignore half of Follicept's participants. The only 3 that really matter are Devon, participant #1 and Dr. Hsu (the others are beyond help outside of transplants), so good that they have a 4th more realistic participant in StayThick. I still don't think it will work but at least they can conclusively say so by using representative subjects.

I do agree with this, but I also believe their mentality was to see if their gel could grow hair on individuals with advance hair loss or areas completely bald where hair has not grown for an extended period of time. I don't blame them for testing their product on these high Norwoods.

However, even with the current treatments we have available today, it's very difficult to grow hair on individuals that high on the Norwood scale so I see what you're saying.

[StayThick]

Hey guys, just checking in to report that so far it's been status quo on my end hair wise. I will be posting updated photos today or tomorrow for you all, but I wouldn't expect much in the form of noticeable results.

I recently got a haircut to try and time it where my hair length is exactly the same to when it was when I posted my first baseline photos. I did this to avoid tricking myself or even others on any progress from this treatment just because my hair might be longer. Hopefully, you all will appreciate that.

No negative side effects or issues outside of that perculiar shed on dose #2. It's not making my hair worse to the naked eye so that's positive news I guess. At this point, I think it's almost impossible to see/expect any sort of progress with any treatment a few weeks in like I am.

I'll be updating this thread again later today or tomorrow with pictures. Chat soon.

[Kalio]

Kudos to you for consistently updating us Staythick. It is much appreciated. I still think its too early to write this treatment off. Looking forward to your progress in a couple of months.

[FearTheLoss]

Hey guys, just checking in to report that so far it's been status quo on my end hair wise. I will be posting updated photos today or tomorrow for you all, but I wouldn't expect much in the form of noticeable results.

I recently got a haircut to try and time it where my hair length is exactly the same to when it was when I posted my first baseline photos. I did this to avoid tricking myself or even others on any progress from this treatment just because my hair might be longer. Hopefully, you all will appreciate that.

No negative side effects or issues outside of that perculiar shed on dose #2. It's not making my hair worse to the naked eye so that's positive news I guess. At this point, I think it's almost impossible to see/expect any sort of progress with any treatment a few weeks in like I am.

I'll be updating this thread again later today or tomorrow with pictures. Chat soon.

Thanks StayThick, we all wish you the best in the rest of your treatment!

[Shooter24]

Hey Staythick...whats with the update? Cmon fill us in

[StayThick]

Hey everyone, I wanted to provide an update with photo's regarding my progress with Follicept's IGF-1 treatment. I currently have 2 doses left before completing my 4 week treatment cycle. I can't say I have experienced any regrowth or positive results at this point in time, but it is very early IMHO. The only indicator of anything remotely happening is the last photo of the right side of my hairline. To me, it looks like some vellus has been sprouting, which is encouraging to say the least. I compared both photo's of the same side of my hairline compared to baseline and it looks like this has occurred. However, I know I did have some light vellus hair in this area to begin with during baseline so I'm not trying to get too excited to be honest.

My crown looks to me to be the same or slightly worse. I do not think Follicept would have contributed it to getting worse if that is indeed the case simply because when examining my baseline photo's, my hair was a tad longer due to me recently having a haircut during these recent photo's. Haircut = more potential exposure to thinning areas.

Overall, it is still early in my opinion before making any conclusions about this treatment. The most important thing in my opinion is not experiencing any adverse effects or additional shedding since the one that occurred with dose #2. That I am happy about.

Take a look and let me know your thoughts. I'll post more photo's in 2 weeks time to see where we are at. Chat soon fellas'.


First 3 photo's is my hair completely soaked in water. I mean I dumped my head in sink full of water wet.

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Below photo's are taken after dry toweling my hair...

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This last photo is the most encouraging to me. I see more vellus here than compared to baseline, but my hair is dry here compared to the wet above of the same area. I just can't say 100% certainty if it is indeed "more" vellus hair along the hairline. Thoughts?
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[Hemo]

Can you edit your post and include your comparable baseline shot to the last one? I can't see a significant difference but also haven't compared side-by-side. The wet version of both at the same angles look similar.

[StayThick]

Can you edit your post and include your comparable baseline shot to the last one? I can't see a significant difference but also haven't compared side-by-side. The wet version of both at the same angles look similar.

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I need to take the same exact angle to baseline in order to help me better evaluate this I think, but here you go.

[nameless]

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I need to take the same exact angle to baseline in order to help me better evaluate this I think, but here you go.

The difference in the angle could easily be causing a FALSE sense that there's more hair.
BTW did you know that Prometheon is now starting a practice to delete posts that have a negative view of Follicept?
Ouch!