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  • Gerhard
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 101

    Hellouser's findings thread

    I'm amazed no one has come on here to post this on here. I was flipping through though and found this gem which, while ironically posted on April 1st is anything but a joke. It's a legitimate potential cure.
  • joachim
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 562

    #2
    i saw the thread on the other forum but as i don't have an account there, i didn't post anything.

    that interview which hellouser is referring to is from 2010 or 2011, when all that hype around the first 3D cultured microfollicle started.
    we all know that they are not there yet (according to desmonds comments and Dr. Beren Atac's presentation). maybe we will here some news at the next hairloss congress in half a year or so, but until then nothing has changed so far. the interview is old and doesn't tell anything new. back then they said they will have it working in 5 years of course, but today they are still far away. of course, their process would probably be much faster with more funding and more man-power. i have the impression they are only a small team from the university, tinkering around their biochip stuff. they are not in a hurry.

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    • Sogeking
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 497

      #3
      Originally posted by joachim
      i saw the thread on the other forum but as i don't have an account there, i didn't post anything.

      that interview which hellouser is referring to is from 2010 or 2011, when all that hype around the first 3D cultured microfollicle started.
      we all know that they are not there yet (according to desmonds comments and Dr. Beren Atac's presentation). maybe we will here some news at the next hairloss congress in half a year or so, but until then nothing has changed so far. the interview is old and doesn't tell anything new. back then they said they will have it working in 5 years of course, but today they are still far away. of course, their process would probably be much faster with more funding and more man-power. i have the impression they are only a small team from the university, tinkering around their biochip stuff. they are not in a hurry.
      Yes, what they are doing is definitely a cure. However it is sad if they can't get the funding.
      Yes the conference seems to be in November. I hope we hear something good then.

      I just have to say this again: if they manage to get funding it is game over.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4423

        #4
        Originally posted by Sogeking
        Yes, what they are doing is definitely a cure. However it is sad if they can't get the funding.
        Yes the conference seems to be in November. I hope we hear something good then.

        I just have to say this again: if they manage to get funding it is game over.
        IF and ONLY if they decide to run trials in Japan. Anywhere else and theyre screwing themselves by ridiculously stupid and archaic regulations that will prolong trials and BURY them with costs. Japan is the ONLY country anyone should be running clinical trials for stem cell therapies. This isn't even up for debate.

        If they did decide on Japan, you could see their treatment get a conditional commercial release in under 3 years as that is actually part of Japan's new regulations.

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1410

          #5
          Originally posted by Sogeking
          Yes, what they are doing is definitely a cure. However it is sad if they can't get the funding.
          Yes the conference seems to be in November. I hope we hear something good then.

          I just have to say this again: if they manage to get funding it is game over.
          There is essentially no way it works and they can't get funding. It is impossible.

          It must be pretty far from a sure thing, because their are plenty of gambling early-stage investors for any company that is remotely close.

          Hellrouser also posted an email to trialists... and they couldn't find funding. So, I wouldn't hold your breath.

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          • FearTheLoss
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 1589

            #6
            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
            There is essentially no way it works and they can't get funding. It is impossible.

            It must be pretty far from a sure thing, because their are plenty of gambling early-stage investors for any company that is remotely close.

            Hellrouser also posted an email to trialists... and they couldn't find funding. So, I wouldn't hold your breath.
            Yeah there is no way this is the real thing for sure and they can't get funding. As soon as the real deal is here, funding won't be an issue at all. They would get funding in a single day.

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            • dus
              Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 87

              #7
              THIS would be the ideal crowdfunding candidate. Even if it doesn't pan out this is real science that would benefit the cause IMO.

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              • mikes23
                Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 59

                #8
                I don't understand why we wouldn't fund this. This is the only thing right now that we can say is a definite cure. We can not say that about histogen, replicel, or serp. We know this will work because it is essential a hair transplant. Whether he has the cure right now or needs more time, funding will help regardless. He works for a small university in Germany, I doubt he gets a lot of research money. Plus the money he does get, he is probably splitting it with the other things he is researching. If we can give him money to Have him either, spend more time on the lab grown follicles, his associates spend more time on it, or just give him more supplies to work with...it can only benefit the cause. Why wouldn't we want to give imo, the most knowledgeable person about hair loss more money. Everyone just needs to give a dollar, that's it. Even if it doesn't result in the cure, at least we tried something productive. I'm tired of dealing with this sh*t. And right now this is our best hope of ending hair loss.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4423

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mikes23
                  I don't understand why we wouldn't fund this.
                  Because you and everyone else don't care enough to do anything about it.

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                  • liba
                    Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mikes23
                    I don't understand why we wouldn't fund this. This is the only thing right now that we can say is a definite cure. We can not say that about histogen, replicel, or serp. We know this will work because it is essential a hair transplant. Whether he has the cure right now or needs more time, funding will help regardless. He works for a small university in Germany, I doubt he gets a lot of research money. Plus the money he does get, he is probably splitting it with the other things he is researching. If we can give him money to Have him either, spend more time on the lab grown follicles, his associates spend more time on it, or just give him more supplies to work with...it can only benefit the cause. Why wouldn't we want to give imo, the most knowledgeable person about hair loss more money. Everyone just needs to give a dollar, that's it. Even if it doesn't result in the cure, at least we tried something productive. I'm tired of dealing with this sh*t. And right now this is our best hope of ending hair loss.
                    Second that

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                    • mikes23
                      Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 59

                      #11
                      @hellouser I clearly do since last year I tried to get people on hairlosshelp to crowdfund lauster but everyone, including you, said there is no point to crowdfund wait until someone starts a trial, then crowdfund the sh*t out of it. You said that on here when someone brought it up. But anyways, I'm not trying to argue over this, we got the same goal and I'm just trying to find any way to help get this solved. I'm 21 year old man with two jobs, goes to school, and plays college ball.... I don't have time to do sh*t but if I can help get everyone to crowdfund and tell all the bald people I know to donate, then I did my part in actually trying something productive.

                      With that being said, have you created that crowdfund website you were talking about on ************? Also, did you get in contact with lauster? Alot of people here do not have accounts on ***. It would be good to keep everyone updated since we need everyone's help.

                      Like I said, I want to do my part in helping and I hope everyone else does to. Its only going to benefit us crowdfunding dr lauster.

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                      • Hairismylife
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 383

                        #12
                        Things we should do now is to contact Lauster and tell them to create an account.
                        We must take one step forward to enable donation.
                        Otherwise it'll only be an endless discussion.

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                        • mikes23
                          Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 59

                          #13
                          Yeah I agree.

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                          • mikes23
                            Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 59

                            #14
                            Found this when I was reading an interview with Dr Christiano

                            " Christiano:*My biggest hope is that pharmaceutical interest will be generated to shift their interest from these downstream things to where I think a real treatment could make a difference. If it’s really good science then it will piss people off for a short time and then they’ll really start to think about it in a different way and it will benefit everyone if they will put some of their money and people behind it."
                            Regrowth recently caught up to Angela Christiano, the doctor who recently discovered the ‘hairless’ gene, which was touted as a […]


                            so even dr christinao seems to be suggesting pharmaceuticals do not want to invest in a cure that is a one or two time thing. They want something like serp or CB. Whether you believe her statement or not, we should help these researchers with funding. Dr lauster told Desmond at the hair congress, he should solve this in the next few years. So let's give him some funding and see if he can get it done.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4423

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mikes23
                              Found this when I was reading an interview with Dr Christiano

                              " Christiano:*My biggest hope is that pharmaceutical interest will be generated to shift their interest from these downstream things to where I think a real treatment could make a difference. If it’s really good science then it will piss people off for a short time and then they’ll really start to think about it in a different way and it will benefit everyone if they will put some of their money and people behind it."
                              Regrowth recently caught up to Angela Christiano, the doctor who recently discovered the ‘hairless’ gene, which was touted as a […]


                              so even dr christinao seems to be suggesting pharmaceuticals do not want to invest in a cure that is a one or two time thing. They want something like serp or CB. Whether you believe her statement or not, we should help these researchers with funding. Dr lauster told Desmond at the hair congress, he should solve this in the next few years. So let's give him some funding and see if he can get it done.
                              No he didn't. They never met. Lauster was never at the congress. Desmond met with Beren Atac and Gerd Lindner.

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