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  • champpy
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 348

    #76
    Tubzy, after you upped the % did you notice a the reduction in shedding instantly, like the next day? or did it take a few days for it to kick in?

    Some of my post haven't been appearing either for some reason

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    • champpy
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 348

      #77
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      • champpy
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 348

        #78
        mad cause nothing nothing nothing ever helps

        Well ive been on OC for a week now . Unfortunately my shedding is still coming out at the current rate. I started at 1% then moved up to 2% and even made larger batches to give more scalp coverage. Nothings helping. Even a pre derma roll session hasn't helped.

        This is so depressing. Why isn't this helping me at all. Derma rolling, RU, minox, neogenic, copper peptides, emu oil, indomethacin, Avodart, fin......NOTHING SLOWS DOWN THE LOSS AT ALL. Am I the only sucker that responds to nothing.

        I, not sure what else I can possible do to turn this around

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        • Not giving up
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 166

          #79
          Originally posted by champpy
          Well ive been on OC for a week now . Unfortunately my shedding is still coming out at the current rate. I started at 1% then moved up to 2% and even made larger batches to give more scalp coverage. Nothings helping. Even a pre derma roll session hasn't helped.

          This is so depressing. Why isn't this helping me at all. Derma rolling, RU, minox, neogenic, copper peptides, emu oil, indomethacin, Avodart, fin......NOTHING SLOWS DOWN THE LOSS AT ALL. Am I the only sucker that responds to nothing.

          I, not sure what else I can possible do to turn this around
          Are you a diffuse thinner bud? How long do they say OC takes to work? It's meant to be pretty instant isn't it? Within a few days? Either way a week might now be long enough to assess the success rate of it. Hang in there bro.

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          • Magster
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 16

            #80
            Champpy,

            What did Kane say about the June 24, 2015 expiration date? What does the powder look like, does it dissolve completely in the ethanol?

            Try 3%. There is another poster who uses OC for awhile now who uses that amount. Don't give up yet.

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            • FeelsBad
              Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 43

              #81
              Champpy, did it do anything regarding the itch (if you have it)?

              I just started OC a few days ago and I will say that my crown is almost always tender to the touch but it hasn't been since I started.
              Can't say if it's done anything regarding shedding since my hair is short so I don't notice shed hairs much.

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              • champpy
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 348

                #82
                I do get an itch every so often, but not really horribly. Its hard to say if the itching has improved. I can say I did miss a dose on Friday and on Sat it did seem a little more itchy than normal. Jurys still out on that.
                Yeah im diffuse. Hair line has receded some and back is thinning, but its honestly just thinning all over.

                Kane said the 2015 date was incorrect (type error)and should have been 2016. Im taking his word on that one.

                The powder is kind of a yellow/gold color. No odor that I can smell.

                Its mostly powder with some clumps in it. the clumps do not dissolve well, so ive been having to grind the lumps it down to a powder. There is usually some residual granules even after many hours of being in the ethanol.

                I mean im glad its helping some of you with the itching and shedding. Ill keep it up until this batch is gone. Tomorrow (Monday) maybe ill up it to 3%. Its just so disappointing to have every option not work.

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                • champpy
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 348

                  #83
                  I think its supposed to pretty instant. I did use indomethacin a couple years ago and it almost totally stopped all hair loss overnight. It was freaking amazing. I was hoping OC would react the same way

                  I know this is off topic but I found this interesting
                  Indomethacin
                  a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) used to treat mild to moderate acute pain and relieve symptoms of arthritis (osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis) or gout, such as inflammation, swelling, stiffness, and joint pain

                  It makes me think that the tofacitinib drug Brett King used on that kid really could help us. Maybe there really is an inflammation response happening (the scalp itching seems to be a big clue)

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                  • jiggo
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 13

                    #84
                    Is there a chance that this might get cheaper? I want to buy this but 200$ per gram is very expensive.

                    And what about sides?

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                    • FeelsBad
                      Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 43

                      #85
                      What vehicle are you guys using? Standard ethanol/pg?

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                      • champpy
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 348

                        #86
                        Yes thats what im using.
                        Anyone using something different that may be more efficient?

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                        • lukey
                          Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 35

                          #87
                          Originally posted by champpy
                          Yes thats what im using.
                          Anyone using something different that may be more efficient?
                          I'm using about a 60% ethanol to 40% PG concentration and my OC fully dissolves after about 30 mins. Are you using 95% alcohol?

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                          • FeelsBad
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 43

                            #88
                            Is OC soluble in anything else? The ethanol/pg vehicle has always given me terrible flakes and irritation.

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                            • champpy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 348

                              #89
                              I'm doing a 70/30 mix.

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                              • Stocione
                                Member
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 59

                                #90
                                Originally posted by champpy
                                I think its supposed to pretty instant. I did use indomethacin a couple years ago and it almost totally stopped all hair loss overnight. It was freaking amazing. I was hoping OC would react the same way

                                I know this is off topic but I found this interesting
                                Indomethacin
                                a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) used to treat mild to moderate acute pain and relieve symptoms of arthritis (osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis) or gout, such as inflammation, swelling, stiffness, and joint pain

                                It makes me think that the tofacitinib drug Brett King used on that kid really could help us. Maybe there really is an inflammation response happening (the scalp itching seems to be a big clue)
                                I'm using a much higher dosage than I think anyone else here or before me. I use approximately 65mg a day now. It tooks months before I noticed a significant reduction in shedding.

                                People who say it immediately reduced their shedding were likely suffering from wishful thinking syndrome.

                                Plan to stick with it for six months at minimum and you shouldn't see an impact on your shedding for a month or two at the earliest because of hair cycles.

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