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    if upregulation due to androgen deprivation were an important factor in aga, castrates would continue to lose hair and we all know they keep it for life.

    90+ percent of men using fin at least maintain what they have for agood old decade

    also that study posted by jarjarbinx is in prostate and cancer cells not dp cells

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma View Post
    if upregulation due to androgen deprivation were an important factor in aga, castrates would continue to lose hair and we all know they keep it for life.

    90+ percent of men using fin at least maintain what they have for agood old decade

    also that study posted by jarjarbinx is in prostate and cancer cells not dp cells
    Exactly. Also finasteride doesn't cause androgen deprivation and isn't a "anti-androgen".

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    THAT STUDY REFERS TO PROSTATE CELLS

    They respond totally differently to androgens than hair, in reverse fashion to be exact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma View Post
    if upregulation due to androgen deprivation were an important factor in aga, castrates would continue to lose hair and we all know they keep it for life.

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    That said, I do wonder if AR upregulation could be possible from RU...RU is a different mechanism from fin, being an AR antagonist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ko1 View Post
    lol

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    Got mines from FollicleFit.com, well really from amazon. Been using it for a month and there is definitely hair and no side effects.

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    I know I’m super late on this but the same thing happened to me. I would having trouble falling asleep, and when I would fall asleep I would be suddenly woken up by my heart beating outa my chest but feeling very lethargic. Oh, and I also experienced the jaw tightness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobus View Post
    So I started using RU a week ago (50mg a day) and started to notice a non-welcome side-effect the second night: I could not sleep. Every time my thoughts would sink away I felt being pulled back to consciousness instantly. This is why I dropped the RU for a day and I fell asleep fine. However, I woke up fully awake instantly (and normally I'm not quite the morning person). Then I tried lowering the dose (20mg) and the same bad night experience occured once more. However, this time when I woke up I heard a small peeping sound in my ears, which has not gone away since (3 days). Both symptoms are obviously related to over-activity in the brain somehow.

    I am scared shitless that these symptoms won't go away for a long time to come. I've come to the point where I couldn't care less about my hair anymore (that will come later). Please, RU-users help me out with your experience .

    PS: I've been using kane/anageninc RU with vichy neogenic as vehicle (5% solution first day 2% second day)
    Hi there, how long did the symptoms persist? Im going through this atm. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobus View Post
    So I started using RU a week ago (50mg a day) and started to notice a non-welcome side-effect the second night: I could not sleep. Every time my thoughts would sink away I felt being pulled back to consciousness instantly. This is why I dropped the RU for a day and I fell asleep fine. However, I woke up fully awake instantly (and normally I'm not quite the morning person). Then I tried lowering the dose (20mg) and the same bad night experience occured once more. However, this time when I woke up I heard a small peeping sound in my ears, which has not gone away since (3 days). Both symptoms are obviously related to over-activity in the brain somehow.

    I am scared shitless that these symptoms won't go away for a long time to come. I've come to the point where I couldn't care less about my hair anymore (that will come later). Please, RU-users help me out with your experience .

    PS: I've been using kane/anageninc RU with vichy neogenic as vehicle (5% solution first day 2% second day)
    How are you now?

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