Sanford-Burnham's hair-raising study - Using stem cells to grow new hair

[sdsurfin]

Don't get too excited about this study either, got an email from Dr. Xu yesterday after I asked him what he thought, and he says that the people who did the study probably misinterpreted their results, and that the resulting hair was mouse hair and not human hair. Not sure how he knows this, but he's legit.

I'm pretty sure that hair cloning is in fact decades away. We are not even close to making multiple viable follicles, and then all the testing and tweaking, and further problems that might arise, who really cares at this point, it'll be ages. I've decided to stop caring, it is what it is. If we're lucky replicel will come out with something viable for maintenance, and if not then there's not much to follow really, any topical is just an annoying bandaid that reminds you of the losing battle, might as well just forget about it.

[Deal]

It's a joke they can't work out the in's and out's of a hair follicle. It's beyond belief. I'm sure one day in kindergartens across the country when kids grow hair on their paintings everyone will look back and laugh at how simple it is. There should be no need for cloning... IT'S A HAIR FOLLICLE. I mean come on, what is so hard about it? If they can't work this out then there is no hope for anything serious.

Whoever works out how to turn on and off the human hair follicle will be the most popular human of all time considering everyone is either trying to grow or remove hair from all over their bodies. Almost everyone has some kind of hair problem somewhere.

Learn and do it yourself if it's so easy. Bitching does nothing. You are kidding yourself if you think someone who controls hair is more important than someone who cures cancer, heart disease, brain tumors, or many other LIFE threatening issues. Some on this forum need a serious reality check.

[walrus]

got an email from Dr. Xu yesterday after I asked him what he thought, and he says that the people who did the study probably misinterpreted their results, and that the resulting hair was mouse hair and not human hair. Not sure how he knows this, but he's legit. .

Very dismissive. All submissions to the journal are peer reviewed by at least two academics working in the same or a similar field plus an editor who scrutinize closely. To suggest that they 'probably misinterpreted' their results without giving scientific reasons to support such a claim is lazy and slanderous to the reputation of the authors. If anyone can find a legitimate flaw in the methodology of such a study they are welcome to submit a rebuttal and the paper can be withdrawn if necessary.

[joachim]

Don't get too excited about this study either, got an email from Dr. Xu yesterday after I asked him what he thought, and he says that the people who did the study probably misinterpreted their results, and that the resulting hair was mouse hair and not human hair. Not sure how he knows this, but he's legit.

I'm pretty sure that hair cloning is in fact decades away. We are not even close to making multiple viable follicles, and then all the testing and tweaking, and further problems that might arise, who really cares at this point, it'll be ages. I've decided to stop caring, it is what it is. If we're lucky replicel will come out with something viable for maintenance, and if not then there's not much to follow really, any topical is just an annoying bandaid that reminds you of the losing battle, might as well just forget about it.

lol. Dr. Xu can't be serious with such a comment. to misinterprete if the hairs were grown from human cells or the mouse only, this is almost impossible. they used nude mice (which completely lack hair) and if you inject human DP cells into them, the hair formed must be human. the mice are used as kind of growth medium in this case (basically just a growth environment for the cells). this is the same method like all other researchers do it as well, and many of them already confirmed in their experiments that the grown hair was human, although grafted in mice skin.

so i'm not sure what reason Dr. Xu has to tell us such funny things.
maybe he is surprised, impressed, or shocked, that they could do this iPS culturing many years ahead of him, thus it must be flawed. don't know.

[FearTheLoss]

lol. Dr. Xu can't be serious with such a comment. to misinterprete if the hairs were grown from human cells or the mouse only, this is almost impossible. they used nude mice (which completely lack hair) and if you inject human DP cells into them, the hair formed must be human. the mice are used as kind of growth medium in this case (basically just a growth environment for the cells). this is the same method like all other researchers do it as well, and many of them already confirmed in their experiments that the grown hair was human, although grafted in mice skin.

so i'm not sure what reason Dr. Xu has to tell us such funny things.
maybe he is surprised, impressed, or shocked, that they could do this iPS culturing many years ahead of him, thus it must be flawed. don't know.

This has been published in a highly respected medical journal with peer reviews. I don't think that would be possible if it were as Dr. Xu thinks it is.

[clarence]

Learn and do it yourself if it's so easy. Bitching does nothing. You are kidding yourself if you think someone who controls hair is more important than someone who cures cancer, heart disease, brain tumors, or many other LIFE threatening issues. Some on this forum need a serious reality check.

Nobody is going to be judged by society for seeking treatment to cancers and heart disease. But it's perfectly O.K. to insult someone once or twice for having a hair transplant. If this doesn't sicken you, then reality must be a sweet thing for you.

[hellouser]

Learn and do it yourself if it's so easy. Bitching does nothing. You are kidding yourself if you think someone who controls hair is more important than someone who cures cancer, heart disease, brain tumors, or many other LIFE threatening issues. Some on this forum need a serious reality check.

Oh, so the 7 billion people on this planet should ONLY be focused on curing cancer, but nothing else? At what point in your life did you decide that it'd be okay to snub a group of people desperate for a change in their life?

[sdsurfin]

"I am not sure the results are as claimed. These hair follicles are more likely to be mouse hair follicles and not human hair follicles."

This is all Xu said. He's a top researcher in this field, and three out of four of the researchers who we have contacted about the san diego study have been pretty clueless sounding about that study, so I wouldn't be surprised if Xu is correct. My sense is that Xu has tried the same approaches many times. I know he is working on the same problem. I wish I could give more info but that's all I got.

Either way I wouldn't sweat over hair cloning, it's way too far off. If we are extremely lucky replicel or that Sm drug could have some promise for maintenance and some regrowth. Hopefully still have hair by then, and I'm pretty skeptical about both. Im sure any drug that gets released will have sides.

[mikes23]

How do you know hair cloning is far off? Technology is advancing faster then ever before. Bill gate made a good point. He shows how in 2030 we will cure at least 4 diseases. Which is huge since we only cured small pox throughout our whole existence. look what Britain just approved. Most people would of said they wont approve something like that for years. If you don't know Britain is to create a baby from 3 parents. Now it's not a designer baby per say but that is the next step. My point is we don't know what the future holds, only thing we know is technology is advancing faster then ever.

[Hairismylife]

How do you know hair cloning is far off? Technology is advancing faster then ever before. Bill gate made a good point. He shows how in 2030 we will cure at least 4 diseases. Which is huge since we only cured small pox throughout our whole existence. look what Britain just approved. Most people would of said they wont approve something like that for years. If you don't know Britain is to create a baby from 3 parents. Now it's not a designer baby per say but that is the next step. My point is we don't know what the future holds, only thing we know is technology is advancing faster then ever.

Everytime when I see a thread about stem cell, cloning, I dont click into it with big interest. I am not saying its not going to happen but just think about baldness, you cant tolerate it even for one day. Cloning probably takes 10 years so its none of my business. What's more realistic we should look into is Replicel, Bim,Sm etc. So I dont know why so many people care about the recent stem cell study which only benefit our sons, if works. I would love to see people trying to gey S equol lotion, the right CB, Bim status rather than being fooled by the scientists.