Advice needed for a possible first HST procedure.

[Freeman08]

Hello everyone,

First of all, I'd like to thank you all for all the infos, update, pictures, advices... you guys left on this forum. I've been reading it for the past two days and I'd gather a lot of information because of you so thank you for that.

I'm still not sure going for a procedure to hasci is going to be possible for me but I gained hope that's at least possible. A little about myself, I'm 30, I've started to lose my hairs in my mid 20's way too soon, way too fast and way too much. And if for some people going bald looks actually great, well unfortunately not for me. I also have a little problem that made me think it wouldn't be possible for me to get ever a HT, I scar very poorly. Every time I get stitches, it leaves me with a big scar. The strip technique and even FUE is not going to be possible for me.

That's why I leaning toward the hasci institute to maybe get a transplant and I'd like to get your opinion if my expectations, the final result I'd like to get is even realistic. So here's a couple of pics of where I am now. I guess I'm a NW6 going 7 right? And the last pics is what I'd like to get. Of course I'd rather have a full head of hair but I know that's not going to happen for me. And if I have to choose, I'd much rather have a thicker density like this than have a good line of hair but no density. The most natural it looks the better it is and I actually think this kind of haircut with this level of hair loss looks really great.







So do you guys think it's even possible to get a result like this with hasci since I've read they aren't the best for the natural look. I also know that their claim about 80% regeneration isn't true but I don't care about that. I have a lot of hair, really thick too so I guess even with 3 intervention my donor area wouldn't look any thinner. All I care is scarless surgery and natural look. Talking about scarless, is it absolutely 100% scarless or is this just almost unnoticeable?

Thank you guys in advance for any advices you can give me,
Cheers,
Joachim.

[35YrsAfter]

Hello everyone,

First of all, I'd like to thank you all for all the infos, update, pictures, advices... you guys left on this forum. I've been reading it for the past two days and I'd gather a lot of information because of you so thank you for that.

I'm still not sure going for a procedure to hasci is going to be possible for me but I gained hope that's at least possible. A little about myself, I'm 30, I've started to lose my hairs in my mid 20's way too soon, way too fast and way too much. And if for some people going bald looks actually great, well unfortunately not for me. I also have a little problem that made me think it wouldn't be possible for me to get ever a HT, I scar very poorly. Every time I get stitches, it leaves me with a big scar. The strip technique and even FUE is not going to be possible for me.

That's why I leaning toward the hasci institute to maybe get a transplant and I'd like to get your opinion if my expectations, the final result I'd like to get is even realistic. So here's a couple of pics of where I am now. I guess I'm a NW6 going 7 right? And the last pics is what I'd like to get. Of course I'd rather have a full head of hair but I know that's not going to happen for me. And if I have to choose, I'd much rather have a thicker density like this than have a good line of hair but no density. The most natural it looks the better it is and I actually think this kind of haircut with this level of hair loss looks really great.

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So do you guys think it's even possible to get a result like this with hasci since I've read they aren't the best for the natural look. I also know that their claim about 80% regeneration isn't true but I don't care about that. I have a lot of hair, really thick too so I guess even with 3 intervention my donor area wouldn't look any thinner. All I care is scarless surgery and natural look. Talking about scarless, is it absolutely 100% scarless or is this just almost unnoticeable?

Thank you guys in advance for any advices you can give me,
Cheers,
Joachim.

What is your family history of hair loss? Are there Norwood sevens on your dad or mom's side? Gho is a mystery. Personally, I'm very skeptical. If money's not an issue, you might consider hasci. Do us all a favor and post your results here if you do go that route. As an alternative, consider doing a very small FUE test area. Find a doctor that will place ACell mixed with hyaluronic acid in your extraction sites.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office - forhair.com - Cole Hair Transplant, 1045 Powers Place, Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 - Phone 678-566-1011 - email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[Freeman08]

My dad nor my half brothers no. Can't really know about my grand father on my dad's side though since I don't know them. Can't know about my grand father on my mom's side either since he died really young during the war.

Yeah that's what I gather here on Gho and his team. Always a great donor area but not the best in aesthetic and density. If I do go that road of course I'll post some pics here to help others. I'm really not sure yet since yes money is an issue. I really don't mind paying 10000€, even 20 in two times would be ok. More I don't want to.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try to read and check the work of docs using ACell mixed with hyaluronic. First time I've heard of it. I've also seen the video about Pilofocus technique, might have to wait for that.

In your opinion, roughly how many hair/graft would be needed to get that kind of result?

[35YrsAfter]

In your opinion, roughly how many hair/graft would be needed to get that kind of result?

It's difficult to tell from the photos. Could you take some additional photos and post them? Your hair appears fine in the pics but it's difficult to tell for sure. If you are headed toward a Norwood seven, the best result available with current medical technology would be a very conservative framing of the face in the frontal area with density gradually fading toward the crown. Donor hair caliber and density play a huge role in the appearance of a patient's result. You don't want to ever have to deal with scars. In your case if you are a suitable candidate for hair transplant surgery, be sure to go with a doctor who knows how to produce a natural appearing result. There's a lot more to producing a natural result than one might think.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office - forhair.com - Cole Hair Transplant, 1045 Powers Place, Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 - Phone 678-566-1011 - email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[Freeman08]

Here's a few other pics that are much better I think. I might be wrong on my scale of NW but if I still have hair on the top of my head, you can see that my hair are thinning every where but on the crown.

[35YrsAfter]

What are you currently using to help keep hair loss under control?

[Freeman08]

Nothing, I've never taken any drugs for anything at least since I'm 18 and I really don't feel like starting now.

[Kiwi]

Nothing, I've never taken any drugs for anything at least since I'm 18 and I really don't feel like starting now.

I think wait another 6 months and see what happens with Pilofocus. Is there a rush?

[Freeman08]

Well I think the best way for me to get answer is to get a rdv with them directly. Just for those of you who went to hasci, which surgeon would you advice?

[caddarik79]

I would say, to achieve your Jean Dujardiin look, you might need three good procedures... 25.000 to 30.000 euros...

Starting with the front and mid (two sessions) and then crown...

then, if you have the money, go for another fourth or fifth...

When you look at Gerard Joling, I'm pretty sure that with another two sessions, he would look amazing.... for "a meant to be bald" guy.

[LMS]

I've yet to see any results from HASCI that gave similar results to the one you want to achieve. I've definately seen results from traditional transplants (FUT/FUE) that gave results similar to what you are hoping to achieve, of course that isn't an option due to your easy scarring.

This being purely my personal opinion, I wouldn't go for it, because even with 3 HSTs I feel the results wouldn't give enough coverage/density to achieve what you want.

I know this is the last thing you want to hear, but if I were you I'd wait 2-3 more years. We have some cool stuff in the pipline like replicel and histogen. Within 2-3 years we'll definately either

a)have them available
b)be close to having them available
c)know that the failed and move on

Assuming it works out with histogen or replicel you could then get their treatments, see where youre at and reevaluate what you want to do. go with hst? go with a normal transplant? or maybe histogen/replicel results are good enough without need for surgery etc.

Furthermore, within 2-3 years we should have pilofocus which will almost certainly be able to achieve what hasci does and more and for likely a fraction of the cost.

My 2 cents

[Freeman08]

I think wait another 6 months and see what happens with Pilofocus. Is there a rush?

Nope definitely not in a rush. Even if I do decide to go for it it won't be before September/October. I'm still a little bit baffled about Pilofocus though. From what I understood from the video, they say there won't be any scar because there going to get hair from underneath. So they'll still to make at least a little cut to go underneath the skin. Guess I have to read a paper about it to really understand how they are going to do it.

[Freeman08]

I would say, to achieve your Jean Dujardiin look, you might need three good procedures... 25.000 to 30.000 euros...

Starting with the front and mid (two sessions) and then crown...

then, if you have the money, go for another fourth or fifth...

When you look at Gerard Joling, I'm pretty sure that with another two sessions, he would look amazing.... for "a meant to be bald" guy.

Is Gerard Joling supposed to be bald? I don't know the guy but yeah, I think he looks good already. Sure he doesn't have a full head of hair but I think it looks natural.

That's the problem for me though, I could go for two maybe three but not more than that.

[Freeman08]

LMS Yeah I might have to wait at least for Pilofocus, just to see if that's a better option for me because 30k and probably even more to get a good result from Hst that's a lot of money. At least for me.

I'll also have to read about replicel and histogen now.

[Freeman08]

Well I wanted to thank you guys for your advices, I've read all the thread about pilofocus and I decided to wait for that until next year. If nothing happens with that or any other scarless surgery, then I'll go for hasci.

I'd do hasci today if I were rich but having to do one every year at least 4, 5 times, it's really too expensive for me.

Thanks again fellas !