The Cure Is Here!

[k318]

Hi 97 NASA,

I would like to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I really don't want to be the one to p**s on your bonfire but:

1. None of us can push any researchers to make anything happen (having worked in medical research myself I know this only too well). I can't think of a case in the history of medical research where researchers have been browbeaten into discovering a treatment

2. Researchers who specialise in a particular field of medicine tend to read all of the literature pertaining to that field, in the form of medical and scientific journals. Therefore, we as hair loss sufferers and not professionals who work in the field are hardly going to be able to give them any new information. This is something that you imply in the following statements; "we need a push of this information to Researchers to get them to try it" and "Rather than have decades go by we need to tell her that it needs to be done with Skin Perturbation THUS she could try that immediately"

3. Even if researchers did try this there is still no guarantee that it would work, yet you seem so sure that it will; "and when they announce that it does work"

4. And your statement about Replicel and Histogen not working is also flawed. This is your opinion and not a fact as they have not commenced (to my knowledge) phase 2b trials and therefore no one knows exactly how efficacious these treatments will be. They may work great or they may not work at all or we could get something in between

5. Your statement that "this should be a complete cure" is also based on faulty logic as no one knows if it will be or not yet you seem sure that you have seen something that the researchers have not

The only reason I bring up these points is not to try and belittle your point of view in some way, but to get you to see that it is not worth putting your life on hold waiting for this. As Spencer says, hair loss sufferers must use what is currently available and not what may or may not ever come to fruition.

[briandesigns]

Hi 97 NASA,

I would like to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I really don't want to be the one to p**s on your bonfire but:

1. None of us can push any researchers to make anything happen (having worked in medical research myself I know this only too well). I can't think of a case in the history of medical research where researchers have been browbeaten into discovering a treatment

2. Researchers who specialise in a particular field of medicine tend to read all of the literature pertaining to that field, in the form of medical and scientific journals. Therefore, we as hair loss sufferers and not professionals who work in the field are hardly going to be able to give them any new information. This is something that you imply in the following statements; "we need a push of this information to Researchers to get them to try it" and "Rather than have decades go by we need to tell her that it needs to be done with Skin Perturbation THUS she could try that immediately"

3. Even if researchers did try this there is still no guarantee that it would work, yet you seem so sure that it will; "and when they announce that it does work"

4. And your statement about Replicel and Histogen not working is also flawed. This is your opinion and not a fact as they have not commenced (to my knowledge) phase 2b trials and therefore no one knows exactly how efficacious these treatments will be. They may work great or they may not work at all or we could get something in between

5. Your statement that "this should be a complete cure" is also based on faulty logic as no one knows if it will be or not yet you seem sure that you have seen something that the researchers have not

The only reason I bring up these points is not to try and belittle your point of view in some way, but to get you to see that it is not worth putting your life on hold waiting for this. As Spencer says, hair loss sufferers must use what is currently available and not what may or may not ever come to fruition.

assume this is the only idea that will take a NW7 -> NW1, assume that researchers will not pay attention to it because it does not come from a credible source such as a peer reviewed paper, so this idea never gets any traction, no think tank ever forms over it....hundreds of years pass by and we still only have propecia and minox...

my question is what CAN we do about it?

[97nasa]

We need to get the word out and make medical researchers try this out.

1) A dedicated page on this website explaining why we believe this needs to be tried by medical researchers and to get the word out.

I am realistic this will not happen too much money going for HT and "new cures" that at best are peach fuzz. Whereas three men who had MPB and had new Dense Hair and the modern link to Follica discoveries affirming why those three men grew hair is ignored.

2) People like Desmond talks to industry leaders to let them know.
3) Us nobody's to spread the word via internet, radio, and TV call ins.
4) contact Follica and Dr. Christian to them know the whole key to curing MPB.
5) I am open to suggestions.

How can three men with MPB suddenly grow hair? The link seems to suggest skin Perturbation AND BenoprofenArthritis type drug. And those coincidences from 1892 and 1986 (when those people grew hair) lines up perfectly with Follica's recent discoveries of Skin Perturbation and drugs (follica might be using wrong drugs needs to try Rux). That lastly those three with AA type hair loss were young and had healthy skin and grew hair but our skin soaked with dht why Rux alone will fail.

But when look at totality of everything it lines up strongly to suggest The Cure. Now we need medical researchers to try it.

All is my opinion.

[k318]

Well that's quite an assumption based on what we have seen thus far, although it would be nice if it could achieve that kind of result. It's not that researchers won't pay attention to it if it's not from a peer reviewed journal. Isaac Newton got hit on the head with an apple, not a peer reviewed journal and look what direction that caused him to take with his research (not the best analogy I know).

If the principle investigator of a particular research group hypothesises that the method could work, they will set up a series of experiments in order to test that hypothesis. Given their level of experience in their chosen field (in which they will likely have spent the majority of their career) they will be well enough informed to determine whether or not it is worth investigating it further.

The idea will only get traction if the research is deemed likely to lead somewhere, a judgement none of us are professionally qualified to make unfortunately. On the other hand if researchers look at this and think that it will lead somewhere I'm sure they will pursue it. I simply meant that they don't need to listen to the lay person as they are professionals, despite what many people may think.

Unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about it other than to get on with our lives as best we can using whatever methods we currently have. Science is pursuing many avenues with regards to hair loss treatment but there is no way to know when or if it will ever come.

Please don't misunderstand; I haven't come here to tell people how to get on with their lives, every man here must decide that for himself. It would just be a shame for people to put their lives on hold while waiting for something which may or may not come in time.

As someone who is heading for Norwood 5 sometime soon I really hope that a Finasteride alternative comes out soon (I grappled with it for 7 years and could no longer take it). There's just no guarantee that is will happen any time soon and life is very short.

[97nasa]

6) that campfire guys photos should be on every website in the nation. It should be the first page of this website. Tell everyone.

If you disagree that Skin Perturbation and Rux will not work say it. Let's discuss it.

All is my opinion.

[97nasa]

Remember ALL OF THIS TIES DIRECTLY WITH FOLLICA'S DISCOVERIES researchers should just use Rux and not the compounds he is trying.

Dr. Christian went from zero to a cure for her AA hair loss in 10 years.

WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS METHOD WILL WORK AND WE CAN HAVE AFFIRMATION IN LESS THAN 1 YEAR.

All is my opinion.

[k318]

97nasa, I don't know if it will work for male pattern baldness or not. It may work and it would be great if it did, then again it may not.

My point is that researchers will not be pushed down a path by lay people, who quite frankly do not know as much as professionals who specialise in this field, so I would like to persuade you not to waste your valuable time. The decisions of the principle investigator who heads a research group will be informed by countless years of training, experience and past research in his field. Therefore he will make the decision as to whether or not it is worth pursuing, especially given budget considerations and research grants etc. And that, unfortunately is the bottom line; they will not be coerced.

The good news is, if researchers believe that it will be a good line of inquiry, they will investigate it anyway. Believe me I wish something would work out soon.
97nasa, I can see you're excited about this and I hope it something does come out of it. Whatever you decide to do though, don't fritter away your best years pursuing it, as many seem to. Best of luck mate

[97nasa]

There is a logical conclusion from the facts, that a cure is here - they just need to try it. Researchers are like everyone else if they hear the facts this might convince them to try it.

All I can do is get the word out. I told others they should get the Bald Truth to have the first page as the photos of the 78 year old cured of MPB with a The Cure for MPB.

You right about moving on. I thought many others would be excited. We could have the cure within 1 year if a researcher tries it. Logic says it should work based upon facts, a and photos.

I have asked Administrators to remove my account and posts.

I want a complete cure no peach fuzz for me. Too many of these cures around the corner are a complete joke.

I think websites/businesses want to keep people bald - it's good for business.

Derm rollers, Fin, Minox all a joke. A cure is here see photos for yourself, and no one cares.

All is my opinion.

97nasa, I don't know if it will work for male pattern baldness or not. It may work and it would be great if it did, then again it may not.

My point is that researchers will not be pushed down a path by lay people, who quite frankly do not know as much as professionals who specialise in this field, so I would like to persuade you not to waste your valuable time. The decisions of the principle investigator who heads a research group will be informed by countless years of training, experience and past research in his field. Therefore he will make the decision as to whether or not it is worth pursuing, especially given budget considerations and research grants etc. And that, unfortunately is the bottom line; they will not be coerced.

The good news is, if researchers believe that it will be a good line of inquiry, they will investigate it anyway. Believe me I wish something would work out soon.
97nasa, I can see you're excited about this and I hope it something does come out of it. Whatever you decide to do though, don't fritter away your best years pursuing it, as many seem to. Best of luck mate

[englishman]

I more often hear the phrase'we already have the cure'. I think there's something true about it. I see this marvellous invention of angela christiano and I'm gobsmacked that no onee is putting money into this, , because it's plain to see that this is the most promising thing for hair loss and baldness in men and women!!! I think it's really more profitable keeping people bald who may purchase aevery shit on the market than a real cure. Chaps we all have a voice to raise and we all have our own opinion but hasn't the time come yet to take part in our destiny?

[97nasa]

I could not have said it better.

And I think Christiano needs to be given all the funds she needs as she really cured hair loss, at least for people with AA hair loss. I think she was going to try Rux on MPB too. I hope she is trying it as it could work. But in my opinion she needs to know if it fails to try it with skin perturbation as fresh skin, not dht soaked skin, is the key for MPB.

Radio talk show callers and others need to try it.

Realistically they will not try it for another 20 years. Time for me to move on.

I more often hear the phrase'we already have the cure'. I think there's something true about it. I see this marvellous invention of angela christiano and I'm gobsmacked that no onee is putting money into this, , because it's plain to see that this is the most promising thing for hair loss and baldness in men and women!!! I think it's really more profitable keeping people bald who may purchase aevery shit on the market than a real cure. Chaps we all have a voice to raise and we all have our own opinion but hasn't the time come yet to take part in our destiny?

[hellouser]

I more often hear the phrase'we already have the cure'. I think there's something true about it. I see this marvellous invention of angela christiano and I'm gobsmacked that no onee is putting money into this, , because it's plain to see that this is the most promising thing for hair loss and baldness in men and women!!! I think it's really more profitable keeping people bald who may purchase aevery shit on the market than a real cure. Chaps we all have a voice to raise and we all have our own opinion but hasn't the time come yet to take part in our destiny?

Forget the money put into it, noone's even bothered to do a simple CASE STUDY for male pattern baldness! Seriously, the amount of neglect and disrespect bald men get is disgusting.

[bananana]

97nasa, chill.
We're on your side, we wanna help spread the news.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

97nasa, I like the way that you think. I'm just doubtful about a treatment that entails massive burn damage to a person's head. But I do agree with you that these drugs that work for alopecia areata NEED to be at least TRIED for MPB. Professionals in the hair industry will always spout the same tired simplistic b.s. that AA is not the same as AGA and leave it at that. But there are some similarities between the two, enough to warrant trying these drugs that worked for people will AA on people with AGA.

[nameless]

97nasa, chill.
We're on your side, we wanna help spread the news.

Why can't someone get this information to Cotseralis and Greco in Florida?

[briandesigns]

We need to get the word out and make medical researchers try this out.

1) A dedicated page on this website explaining why we believe this needs to be tried by medical researchers and to get the word out.

I am realistic this will not happen too much money going for HT and "new cures" that at best are peach fuzz. Whereas three men who had MPB and had new Dense Hair and the modern link to Follica discoveries affirming why those three men grew hair is ignored.

2) People like Desmond talks to industry leaders to let them know.
3) Us nobody's to spread the word via internet, radio, and TV call ins.
4) contact Follica and Dr. Christian to them know the whole key to curing MPB.
5) I am open to suggestions.

How can three men with MPB suddenly grow hair? The link seems to suggest skin Perturbation AND BenoprofenArthritis type drug. And those coincidences from 1892 and 1986 (when those people grew hair) lines up perfectly with Follica's recent discoveries of Skin Perturbation and drugs (follica might be using wrong drugs needs to try Rux). That lastly those three with AA type hair loss were young and had healthy skin and grew hair but our skin soaked with dht why Rux alone will fail.

But when look at totality of everything it lines up strongly to suggest The Cure. Now we need medical researchers to try it.

All is my opinion.

i support this because we need to chase down all avenues. but nasa you need to be the one doing all these things. no one else believes in this more than you do.