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    Default Where Are The HairMax Lasercomb Studies?

    Dear Spencer, Months ago when you interviewed David Michaels, one of the inventors of the HairMax Lasercomb, he said that he was going to give you a copy of the study that Lexington presented to the FDA in order for the Lasercomb to gain market clearance, did you ever see the study, and if so what [...]

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    LLLT can't work for many reasons.

    One of the most obvious is that laser light cannot, under any circumstance, penetrate the skin's "optical barrier". There are no exceptions and this reality serves as a fatal blow to the LLLT industry.

    See this short video:
    http://www.fellermedicaldata.com/Video/laser2.wmv

    When the LLLT industry was confronted with this unavoidable fact of physics, not a single representative came online to refute or correct the claim. This includes the owner and "inventor" of the Hairmax laser comb, David Michaels, and ALL of the LLLT doctors whose names and websites appear on the so-called "Medical Advisory Board" of Hairmax's website.

    LLLT is an insult to the medical and scientific world.

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    Default How did HairMax comb recieve FDA approval!!

    Hi Dr. Feller,

    Just wondering, If HairMax comb doesnt work, how did they obtain FDA approval?

    Kind regards
    Aiyosh

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    Quote Originally Posted by aiyosh View Post
    Hi Dr. Feller,

    Just wondering, If HairMax comb doesnt work, how did they obtain FDA approval?

    Kind regards
    Aiyosh
    Hi Aiyosh,
    Dr. Feller responded in another thread previously but I'll paste it here:
    LLLT, from a basic physics standpoint, is absolutely unviable. There are several reasons for this, but the most obvious is that the laser light simply can't reach the body of the hair follicle due to the skins natural "optical barrier". Everybodys skin has such a barrier and it is 100% impermiable to laser light, everytime. This was a major oversite on the part of the LLLT industry and it is causing them much trouble.

    Here is a link to a short video that proves this point:
    http://www.fellermedicaldata.com/Video/laser2.wmv
    The physics this video demonstrates is fatal to the LLLT industry which is why they have pressured another forum owner to remove this video from their site.

    On two other forums I have asked for LLLT before/after results from the public. After over 10,000 views not a single LLLT advocate could produce even ONE set of convincing photos.

    I have asked every major LLLT doctor to produce photos to prove the benefit of the "treatment" they sell to their patients and NONE have responded. The only photos I have seen from such doctors were disceptive at best.

    I have also put the question of the "optical barrier" to LLLT doctors, and again not a single one responded. That should raise a red flag in even the most gullable of patients.

    Finally, I debated David Michaels, Hairmax boss, on Spencer's radio show and exposed him for being less than knowledgable in the field of laser physics, physiology, electronics, and medicine. He refuses to debate me again publicly. When you listen to the broadcast you will see why.

    Stay away from LLLT. Not a single patient who has visited my office for consultation who has reported using LLLT has ever seen any benefit at ANY price.

    Aunt Marney,
    Laser combes have NOT been FDA approved. Merely FDA cleared.

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    Smile FDA cleared and approved??what is the different?

    Thank you for your detail reply AlopecianMuse!! Really appreciate it. whats the different between FDA cleared and FDA approved?? Below from the hairmax link it said the product has obtained FDA clearence...is there a different?? I m confused...

    Once again thanks in advance!!


    http://www.hairmax.com/ClinicalResea...Clearance.aspx

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    Hi,
    Dr. Feller is the man to talk to about that. I just copied and pasted the reply from him because it was so detailed and posted to another thread on the forum.

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    I don't understand much about lasers , but this I can tell you .

    Lasers are used for hair removal , There is a project in the make that is trying to substitute syringes with a laser device , and they already suceeded .

    There are doctors that use lasers to cut into the skin ... there are many use for lasers and they can penetrate skin ... Just do your research .

    The video it's just stupid , there are very types of lasers . and you can't see with your bare eyes what the efect is .

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    FDA approval and FDA clearence are two different things. You will have to do your own research to learn the details of the difference.

    While there is an implication that FDA clearence confers some sort of governmental validation for the efficacy of laser medical devices for the growth of hair, the details of this validation have been a closely gaurded secret. One must wonder WHY this is.

    David Michaels (Hairmax boss) has steadfastly refused to disclose the information he submitted to the FDA to prove efficacy. What's worse, is that he REFUSES to release what the definition of "efficacy" means and what criteria the government required of him. Interesting omissions, aren't they?

    While Mr. Micheals has claimed for some time that he would release the "study" he said he submitted to the FDA to meet their nebulous criteria of "clearance", to date and to my knowledge he is still refusing to do so.
    This, of course, has not stopped him nor any other LLLT advocate from selling thier wares to a purposefully uninformed public DESPERATE to reclaim their lost hair. And that's a shame.

    Breezer,
    What an intellectual giant you are. Your considered critique:" The video is just stupid" informs us all of your maturity level. Now, go back to playing with your blocks, the adults are talking.

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    LOL! Doctor Feller! Well said!! I am completely with you on this one. Your steadfast confidence on this issue, as well as your publicly disclosed, and free-to-see experiments and data, disproves any value to the lasercomb nonsense related to hair loss. I don't understand why people aren't seeing your underlying message as an ethical, awesome doctor: DON'T WASTE OUR MONEY, IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP US!

    As an engineer myself (I know you have an engineering background), I can't accept "pie in the sky" rationale for using a product that claims to regrow or sustain hair --- I want solid, scientifically demonstratable proof. And so what if lasers can cut skin? I can also confirm that lasers are used to cut sheet metal --- much tougher than skin. But isn't that irrelevant? Lasers that cut skin or sheet metal aren't the same lasers that would be used to treat hair loss.

    I know that if I lived in your area, I'd choose you as my IAHRS surgeon. You're the man!

    TeeJay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Feller View Post
    FDA approval and FDA clearence are two different things. You will have to do your own research to learn the details of the difference.

    While there is an implication that FDA clearence confers some sort of governmental validation for the efficacy of laser medical devices for the growth of hair, the details of this validation have been a closely gaurded secret. One must wonder WHY this is.

    David Michaels (Hairmax boss) has steadfastly refused to disclose the information he submitted to the FDA to prove efficacy. What's worse, is that he REFUSES to release what the definition of "efficacy" means and what criteria the government required of him. Interesting omissions, aren't they?

    While Mr. Micheals has claimed for some time that he would release the "study" he said he submitted to the FDA to meet their nebulous criteria of "clearance", to date and to my knowledge he is still refusing to do so.
    This, of course, has not stopped him nor any other LLLT advocate from selling thier wares to a purposefully uninformed public DESPERATE to reclaim their lost hair. And that's a shame.

    Breezer,
    What an intellectual giant you are. Your considered critique:" The video is just stupid" informs us all of your maturity level. Now, go back to playing with your blocks, the adults are talking.
    Now that we agreed that you are intellectual superior than me , we can put personal insults aside .
    Of course the video is stupid … just think about it there are many types of lasers and you can't determine what they can do or can't by buying one for 10 $ and pointing it at your hand , the laser industries is worth billions, do you think you have it all covered with that video ? baka ka omae ?
    For those who want to instruct themselves and think about it for a second go here :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser

    I’m not saying lasercomb works , never tried it and probably will never try . I have heard people saying it does work and others say it doesn’t . you are basing your opinion only in the presumption that the laser can’t penetrate the “optical barrier “ of skin , my question is and if it could ? What if the laser could do what they say , do you think It would work ?

    Let the adults talk ? I can only see a bunch of people bowing to what you say not questioning …, if the matter at hands was about hair transplant you are the expert or so they say but it ins’t it is about lasers .
    For me everyone is trying to make a buck out of the misery of others . (usa style )

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