Bimatoprost finishing up Phase IIb trial!

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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1589

    #16
    Originally posted by rdawg
    I'll only be mad if the results end up being really good, or better than minoxidil but they still feel it's not good enough to release, because then it would be like taking an option away from us.

    Would love to replace Minoxidil, stuff is near useless, it came out in the damn 80's! I've seen 0.03% BIM being used by some people and getting better results than with rogaine.
    You can use it now at like 5% for $70 a month.

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    • rdawg
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 1019

      #17
      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
      You can use it now at like 5% for $70 a month.
      Has anyone actually done this yet though and get results?I havent heard many people use it yet.

      I've seen people track results with 0.03% and use that for about 5-6 months and get solid thickening, so I'd imagine 5% would definitely be a little better.

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      • Gjm127
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 171

        #18
        Originally posted by rdawg
        Has anyone actually done this yet though and get results?I havent heard many people use it yet.

        I've seen people track results with 0.03% and use that for about 5-6 months and get solid thickening, so I'd imagine 5% would definitely be a little better.
        to me it looks like it's a harmless growth stimulant... I make the parralel like this:

        CB for acne is to CB for hairloss
        what
        BIM for eyelashes (0.03%) is to BIM for hairloss (5%)

        Since the one for eyelashes has no sides, I doubt the 5% could for hairloss if it's spread out across the whole scalp

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        • beetee
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 187

          #19
          There's definitely reason to think it could work. When they announced the results of the first trial, they said it had resulted in growth but not enough. Still, some growth is some growth, and carried with it the possibility of greater growth if it could be targeted more efficiently. There were two studies conducted as well with promising results. One I can't find now (will check the files) that was small scale but found that there was regrowth with the possibility of the creation of new hair follicles (so not just thickening existing), and that was in the original formulation. This is in itself not determinative but is certainly interesting. Another study in the FASEB journal (search bimatoprost and the journal name in google scholar) found regrowth in mice (big deal, I know) and extracted human hair follicles. It is interesting. Allergan now seems to be interested in trying to sell to Actavis which would be very good for the future of this product. Hopefully the could win a bidding war with the scumbags Valeant.

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          • Pelopeleon
            Junior Member
            • May 2014
            • 29

            #20
            Sounds good. But, there were risks of changes in iris pigmentation, right?

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            • rdawg
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 1019

              #21
              Originally posted by Pelopeleon
              Sounds good. But, there were risks of changes in iris pigmentation, right?
              I think that was more associated with the eyelash version of the drug as it could easily get into your eyes when youre putting it there!

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              • beetee
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 187

                #22
                I personally am not too worried about eye pigmentation. I think a lot of people in the earlier stages of HL want everything to be exactly how it would have been if they 'd never lost any hair. Wait till you get further down the line. If you still care about HL, you'd sacrifice maintaining your current hue of eye pigmentation without a thought . But like rdawg says, shouldn't be too much of an issue anyway.

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                • beetee
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 187

                  #23
                  Anyone with doubts about what kind of company valeant is and what could happen if they succeed in taking over allergan, check the first posting in the "CB probably isn't that great" thread.

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                  • gladiator
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 17

                    #24
                    Hey,
                    I have been in contact with a company in Australia who have radio adds for hair and skin treatment s , I called them on the way home .
                    The owner speaks to you directly for ages about hairloss and future treatments .
                    Anyway he makes bimatrapost @ 1.5 Mls .
                    He said he has a compounding pharmacy who make it into a lotion .
                    He knows his shit !
                    You get a perscription and he takes care of the rest !
                    He said the treatment is getting mega results !
                    I'd give it a go but it's $1800 for 6 months .
                    Then after 1 year you are done and can kick back with a pdg2 shampoo and a stimulator !
                    Sounds easy .
                    I'm not selling anything but if anyone is interested I can post a link !

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                    • joel203
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 115

                      #25
                      Originally posted by gladiator
                      Hey,
                      I have been in contact with a company in Australia who have radio adds for hair and skin treatment s , I called them on the way home .
                      The owner speaks to you directly for ages about hairloss and future treatments .
                      Anyway he makes bimatrapost @ 1.5 Mls .
                      He said he has a compounding pharmacy who make it into a lotion .
                      He knows his shit !
                      You get a perscription and he takes care of the rest !
                      He said the treatment is getting mega results !
                      I'd give it a go but it's $1800 for 6 months .
                      Then after 1 year you are done and can kick back with a pdg2 shampoo and a stimulator !
                      Sounds easy .
                      I'm not selling anything but if anyone is interested I can post a link !
                      Shut up

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                      • lilpauly
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1084

                        #26
                        i think they are goingto have a anoter clincal study using a stronget strength!

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                        • lilpauly
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1084

                          #27
                          Any1 try Lanaport

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                          • rambo007
                            Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 43

                            #28
                            Not good news

                            Information and advice on hair loss, the treatments that work, and the ones that don't Plus photos, videos and comments from hair loss treatment users

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                            • locke999
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 158

                              #29
                              Phase 3 is the most expensive and where companies fail the most.

                              I wouldn't get my hopes up until any of these companies are even in the middle of phase 3.

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                              • lilpauly
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 1084

                                #30
                                Latanoprost 22% Density Increase.

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