Printed skin with follicles

[joely]

The thing I see from this is that growing a new full head of hair is do-able and has been for a while, but is it being looked into enough, the problem with most of us on these forums is we are not doctors (mostly I assume anyway) we don't have the money or know how or access to try something like this. We are just normal people with average jobs. Surely Cots could have looked into this, but then again maybe he had and didn't yield anything. But to think its as easy as new skin and tablets which is probably harder than it sounds.

Still I wander if I put my head in the fire place get new skin on the NHS and then turn up at my GP's complaining of the symptoms of arthritis shortly after if I would then be cured

[joachim]

i have to agree with hellouser and co.
there are not many passionate researchers in the world who really try to change the world for the better. most researchers are doing the same thing every day, trying different protocols, bacteria culturing stuff and so on. they get well paid. but they have no real interest in solving real-world problems unless they are not affected by the problem itself.
i even think that dr. cots is only a research guy, for the whole life. he will never have the passion to drive things forward. why should he? what if he had found the cure already but would not be able to protect his idea so that he can make money with it? if he then tells the world about the cure then his decade lasting hairloss research would be over. no funding required anymore. and what then? he would have to find a new job or a new field of research. also he would lose his fame as hairloss research guy. because to be honest, even if he presents the cure to the world, one year after that nobody would ever remember him anymore. its not like he would be celebrated like a star.
but if he can play that research game for another 2 decades he will always pop up in a headline here and there, go to hairloss congresses, and would be a respected researcher.
of course, that is a dramatic interpretation, but i don't think it's very far away from the reality. and the same goes for a lot of other researchers in different fields.

at that slow pace we really won't have a cure within the next 3 decades. if we only had an investor or a rich guy under us forum members, we could put things up totally different and doing lot of research to find the cure ourselves.

the only interesting remaining thing is replicel. if they fail too, then everything is over.

[97nasa]

What are your thoughts on it do you think it makes sense to use that combination?

It also fits into that other doctor who is using Skin Perturbation (removing top layer of skin) but he might be off track since he is using a compound (I believe) that either stops P2G2 or enhances Wnt (proteins). In other words, he probably is not using the Ruxolitinib or that other drug.

Also remember, that the AA type hairloss Rux/Taf have proven to grow hair. However in the case of MPB it probably will not work due to DHT damage. Thus need new skin but it would be like replacing Top Soil that the Crop Should Grow (Hair).

But there is no other way to explain the Two men who grew hair using Benoxaprofin and the third guy who burnt his skin in the Camp fire. I honestly believe it makes sense.

I am only curious what people think. Does any of it makes sense?

All is my opinion.

Would likely have to be more severe wounding.

[Alex88]

i have to admit that the pic of the burnt guy seems legit.
and the theory itself is interesting - isn't hairloss caused also by the fact that " scar tissue starts to cover the head and therefore there is no chance for hair to grow"?
i was looking my old man the other day and he seems to have all the bulbs but they don't ****ing grow. i was thinking...what if he peels back the substrate of his skin? just like,scratching it a little?
that means more blood in the area,more blood equals more feeding for the bulbs...
but maybe i'm going a little bit too far. maybe i should just kick him in the fireplace (LOL)

@97nasa - you're right. we're on our own,because the industry and let alone the surgeons saying they're trying to help us are making millions off us. Finally someone with some insight!

[97nasa]

Need someone to try it on lab rats I guess. That combination.

But again, I honestly believe this is the Key to unlocking those two variables. Ruxolitinib (or similar drug) PLUS skin abrasion (new skin). That combination has been elusive. That Castriono (whatever his name) got the skin the abrasion current but not the drug (he is probably using P2G2 inhibitors and Wnt proteins).

Also, the AA type hairloss grow their hair since they are Young and do not have DHT issues to where their skin has become toxic (so to speak) from it. Thus when they use Ruxolitinib or the other drug they get hair. Whereas, MPB people need New Skin before they too can grow hair. Sorry if I am reptitive but I think this is it. Let me know of differing opinion.

Just my opinion.

[joachim]

dermabrasion is definitely one possible route to trigger brand new follicle formation. cotsarelis mentioned that already and he added that follica is able to trigger new follicles in humans. maybe not consistently but still impressive. the key is to find the right time window after the skin wounding, so that you can tell the stem cells to turn into a hair follicle instead of normal skin cells. he tried that with lithium and wnt (on mice). wnt is probably the key, but clinical trials are not planned yet thus 20 years away.
on the other side, if an arthrithis drug can create a similar effect by inhibiting or accelerating certain factors during skin repair, then yes it could be possible.
but nobody is able to try that in a controlled way. so we will never know. and without money there is no way to motivate any company for such ideas.

[JDW]

i have to agree with hellouser and co.
there are not many passionate researchers in the world who really try to change the world for the better. most researchers are doing the same thing every day, trying different protocols, bacteria culturing stuff and so on. they get well paid. but they have no real interest in solving real-world problems unless they are not affected by the problem itself.
i even think that dr. cots is only a research guy, for the whole life. he will never have the passion to drive things forward. why should he? what if he had found the cure already but would not be able to protect his idea so that he can make money with it? if he then tells the world about the cure then his decade lasting hairloss research would be over. no funding required anymore. and what then? he would have to find a new job or a new field of research. also he would lose his fame as hairloss research guy. because to be honest, even if he presents the cure to the world, one year after that nobody would ever remember him anymore. its not like he would be celebrated like a star.
but if he can play that research game for another 2 decades he will always pop up in a headline here and there, go to hairloss congresses, and would be a respected researcher.
of course, that is a dramatic interpretation, but i don't think it's very far away from the reality. and the same goes for a lot of other researchers in different fields.

at that slow pace we really won't have a cure within the next 3 decades. if we only had an investor or a rich guy under us forum members, we could put things up totally different and doing lot of research to find the cure ourselves.

the only interesting remaining thing is replicel. if they fail too, then everything is over.

I see what you're getting at, but on the flip side, if he was the guy to cure hairless then surely research projects/pharmaceuticals would be throwing $$$ at him to work on other stuff. What a selling point for investors having him involved

[97nasa]

The Cure is Here!

Just need researchers to try it. It is possible Ruxolitinib and its Sister drug might work without skin abrasion. However if that turns out not to work all indication of facts suggest that skin abrasion (not sure how much light or severe) absolutely should work.

Again, open your eyes to the facts it appears a treatment for hair loss should work - regrow all your lost hair.

All is my opinion.

[97nasa]

Looking at the photos of the old man blown up you can tell in the front hairline on his left side his hairline is lower than his right side plus in the temple part it is thicker - right where he burned his skin. But overall on top his hair is much, much thicker than it was before as his body sent massive cell regrowth fluids to the top of his head it actually looks thicker on top than the sides if you can believe it. He must have been on an arthritis drug or whatever drug they gave him to treat the burn. From very thin and nonexistent hair the a very thick head of hair.

Blow up the photos to full screen and take a good look. This is not an Info Commercial selling another lame product there was no money to be made by this guy. This Is Real. The Solution Is Starring You Right In The Face and everyone is ignoring it. They would rather talk about Replicel. Where is Desmond on this? No comments on a real cure?

I think the burned skin helped most of his hair regrow but also my guess he was on an arthritis type drug or was treated with the right drug that allowed him to regrow hair as a result of his severe skin abrasion..

I am absolutely convinced AReal Cure Is Here and It Is Starring Everyone On This Board Right In The Face And They Are Ignoring It.

[bananana]

Looking at the photos of the old man blown up you can tell in the front hairline on his left side his hairline is lower than his right side plus in the temple part it is thicker - right where he burned his skin. But overall on top his hair is much, much thicker than it was before as his body sent massive cell regrowth fluids to the top of his head it actually looks thicker on top than the sides if you can believe it. He must have been on an arthritis drug or whatever drug they gave him to treat the burn. From very thin and nonexistent hair the a very thick head of hair.

Blow up the photos to full screen and take a good look. This is not an Info Commercial selling another lame product there was no money to be made by this guy. This Is Real. The Solution Is Starring You Right In The Face and everyone is ignoring it. They would rather talk about Replicel. Where is Desmond on this? No comments on a real cure?

I think the burned skin helped most of his hair regrow but also my guess he was on an arthritis type drug or was treated with the right drug that allowed him to regrow hair as a result of his severe skin abrasion..

I am absolutely convinced AReal Cure Is Here and It Is Starring Everyone On This Board Right In The Face And They Are Ignoring It.

I admit - it does look really interesting!

[KO1]

hellouser, did you ever get in contact with this clinic?

[DepressedByHairLoss]

The Cure is Here!

Just need researchers to try it. It is possible Ruxolitinib and its Sister drug might work without skin abrasion. However if that turns out not to work all indication of facts suggest that skin abrasion (not sure how much light or severe) absolutely should work.

Again, open your eyes to the facts it appears a treatment for hair loss should work - regrow all your lost hair.

All is my opinion.

Take a look at this article: http://www.gizmag.com/hydrogel-skin-...e-burns/20876/. It lends credence to your claim that new skin that is not "DHT soaked" could be integral to growing new hair. It frustrates me because since the compound in the article does not contain any drugs or biological componenets, it could at least be tried by these prominent "researchers" on a select few hair loss sufferers.

[Jonathan]

I am absolutely convinced AReal Cure Is Here and It Is Starring Everyone On This Board Right In The Face And They Are Ignoring It.

I hear your frustration buddy. I can only speak for myself and I am not ignoring anything. I am reading everything there is to read about it.

The question is what can we do to spread the word? Maybe you or someone else can put all the evidence, links and images that we have regarding this and the burned men and structure it in a nice way into one post/thread? All the hard fact in one place. Then I think its easier for people to follow it and it will get bigger attention and spread. I would love to do it myself if my English were better and if i had the slightest clue of what p2g and dht stuff is, but I dont

Is there anyway we can test this without involving a scientist or putting our health in danger? Would it be possible to try it at a small area on a less sensitive body part like an arm or leg?

Keep it up man!

[JDW]

Take a look at this article: http://www.gizmag.com/hydrogel-skin-...e-burns/20876/. It lends credence to your claim that new skin that is not "DHT soaked" could be integral to growing new hair. It frustrates me because since the compound in the article does not contain any drugs or biological componenets, it could at least be tried by these prominent "researchers" on a select few hair loss sufferers.

So Hydrogel could repair the skin leaving the repaired skin DHT free?

[joachim]

could it really be that easy? a miracle hydrogel to promote healing and force the cells to create all necessary blood vessels, hair follicles etc.
if so, then we really need that, and to give it a try with some serious wounding.
so many facts and articeles point directly into the wounding mechanism. we have to investigate more on this.