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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMPB View Post
    I started taking pics the other month as I ramped up to dut 3x a week with fin In between. Will take pics again in a few weeks to compare.

    Anxiety and stress is better but not 100% ideal. How do u use melatonin? Just before sleep? Does it have any effect on stress/anxiety besides helping with better sleep? Is it safe for long term?
    Ok as the first steps you need to determine before trying any 15% mixtures has your Hairloss been stabalized. I can suggest few things to add within the regime but again, you need to determine first if your Hairloss has stabalized with DUT.

    In regards to melatonin the stuff is amazing hands down. I suffer from sleep disorder and anxiety, I can assure you it does help etc. As with anything too much may have some side effects, natural occurring compound within the body, I would say 3mg is fine, that’s my opinion. Also their is a guy on the other forums who started to regrow some hair whilst using melatonin 3mg.

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    Jazz
    I thought u liked helping people. What happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMPB View Post
    Jazz
    I thought u liked helping people. What happened?
    What do you mean? I still do try my best to help people with my own knowledge and research. Also to add I work shifts and can get tied down with work. I always promised I will try my best to help people.

    So I do not understand your statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz1 View Post
    What do you mean? I still do try my best to help people with my own knowledge and research. Also to add I work shifts and can get tied down with work. I always promised I will try my best to help people.

    So I do not understand your statement?

    My bad. Somehow I missed ur post on the 26th.

    So if loss has stabilized u basically recommend 15%. Do u recommend all the additives? I'm a fairly hairy guy as is, in ur experience will it increase facial/body hair? Do u recommend anything else once the loss has stabilized besides high strength minox?

    On ur recommendation I've bought some melatonin. I have 3mg and .5 mg pills. How often do u use them?

    Thanks jazz

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMPB View Post
    My bad. Somehow I missed ur post on the 26th.

    So if loss has stabilized u basically recommend 15%. Do u recommend all the additives? I'm a fairly hairy guy as is, in ur experience will it increase facial/body hair? Do u recommend anything else once the loss has stabilized besides high strength minox?

    On ur recommendation I've bought some melatonin. I have 3mg and .5 mg pills. How often do u use them?

    Thanks jazz

    Hey John before you spend more money and before I recommend any other additional treatments I want to know has your Hairloss stabalized on DUT? Yes I do recommend adding all additives and again I can also suggest few add on products fairly cheap to add within the regime.

    There’s no point adding extra products if finesteride/dutasteride is not halting your Hairloss. As the main purpose of trying to regrow hair with 15% plus derma roller etc is if the Hairloss has stabalized.

    The melatonin at 3mg is fine, I would not use anything over as that becomes very strong! Also try not to use it daily, ideally when you have sleep issues or stress issues. Susan does topical melatonin, I discarded topical melatonin as I already use the 15% and her Acetyl Glutathione mixture was too much for me to use within one day! I just use the Acetyl glutathione every other day.

    Depending upon your Hairloss stabalizing, these are the add on I use;

    15% mixture,
    2% topical progesterone lotion 3 times per week,
    Divine herbal oils,
    Derma roller, 1mm every other day, 1.5mm once per week for wounding,
    OGV method twice per week.

    Then to add a good diet, high alkaline, juicing with added turmeric, flax seeds, pumpkin seeds, beetroot, kale, spinach, broccoli, carrots, ginger, garlic etc.

    Try to avoid foods high in sugar, bread/wheat etc, a good clean diet can also help contribute to DHT levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz1 View Post
    Hey John before you spend more money and before I recommend any other additional treatments I want to know has your Hairloss stabalized on DUT? Yes I do recommend adding all additives and again I can also suggest few add on products fairly cheap to add within the regime.

    There’s no point adding extra products if finesteride/dutasteride is not halting your Hairloss. As the main purpose of trying to regrow hair with 15% plus derma roller etc is if the Hairloss has stabalized.

    The melatonin at 3mg is fine, I would not use anything over as that becomes very strong! Also try not to use it daily, ideally when you have sleep issues or stress issues. Susan does topical melatonin, I discarded topical melatonin as I already use the 15% and her Acetyl Glutathione mixture was too much for me to use within one day! I just use the Acetyl glutathione every other day.

    Depending upon your Hairloss stabalizing, these are the add on I use;

    15% mixture,
    2% topical progesterone lotion 3 times per week,
    Divine herbal oils,
    Derma roller, 1mm every other day, 1.5mm once per week for wounding,
    OGV method twice per week.

    Then to add a good diet, high alkaline, juicing with added turmeric, flax seeds, pumpkin seeds, beetroot, kale, spinach, broccoli, carrots, ginger, garlic etc.

    Try to avoid foods high in sugar, bread/wheat etc, a good clean diet can also help contribute to DHT levels.
    I'm tracking with monthly pictures so hopefully I will know by 6 months or a year.

    What is the acetyl gluthothione good for? This is the first I heard about it and I don't think medical wellness center offers a prescription for it.

    Any reason behind derma rolling so often? I think the official Indian/Dhurat study only did it once a week? Do u still apply high strength minox after rolling/wounding?

    I didn't know Susan offers topical progesterone. Again I didn't see an rx for it on medical wellness center site. Doesn't the 15% already contain progesterone? Is this dangerous if it goes systemic for males?

    Also, what is OGV method? I googled it and couldn't find anything.

    Great health/nutrition advice btw. Do u workout? Have any advice on how to treat shoulder tendinitis?

    Thanks jazz

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    Hey John give me few days reply as I’m flying out on holiday.

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    Jazz, hello?

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    I am in India for one week holiday WiFi restricted, so I will reply when I’m back .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMPB View Post
    I'm tracking with monthly pictures so hopefully I will know by 6 months or a year.

    What is the acetyl gluthothione good for? This is the first I heard about it and I don't think medical wellness center offers a prescription for it.

    Any reason behind derma rolling so often? I think the official Indian/Dhurat study only did it once a week? Do u still apply high strength minox after rolling/wounding?

    I didn't know Susan offers topical progesterone. Again I didn't see an rx for it on medical wellness center site. Doesn't the 15% already contain progesterone? Is this dangerous if it goes systemic for males?

    Also, what is OGV method? I googled it and couldn't find anything.

    Great health/nutrition advice btw. Do u workout? Have any advice on how to treat shoulder tendinitis?

    Thanks jazz
    Right I have some WiFi in this small village area. The funny part majority of the guys in India are not balding! Even the woman have thick long hair and yet in the western society woman/men bald. I have noticed the food is less contaminated plus the water. The milk is taken direct from the cow and the chicken is cut fresh without any hormone injection. Alot of the guys are blaming the water in the west when they travelled down to the UK they noticed an increase in shedding. Plus some guys I work with who have migrated to the UK are balding, yet when they were living in India the did not suffer Hairloss/MPB.

    Right back to your questions, I would wait and see on your shedding/Hairloss if DUT has managed to halt your hair shedding/loss. The only other powerful methods beside Finesteride/Dutasteride is RU-58841 or CB-03-01.

    Susan mentioned to me about her range of Acetyl Glutathione and the benefits as a powerful antioxidant. I have read studies in relation to MPB and some studies seem promising. I use it every other day, you do not need a prescription for it and Susan sells it with added biotin and vitamin E. As per before you can see the benefits of melatonin for hair growth.

    I read several studies in regards to derma rolling and started with 1mm every other day plus 1.5mm for wounding. Obviously my Hairloss is intact so the only place I could test my results were on the forehead below the hairline/temples. After a few months I had a line of new longish vellus hairs in the line I derma rolled etc. So in theory the stuff 100% works, I only used it at night and then applied the 5% straight after derma rolling as applying the 15% straight after would give me a head rush/headache etc.

    Progesterone is safe to use as you can obtain it from most cream/face products etc. Males/Females both produce progesterone and yes I decided to use the extra lotion based 2% conditioner alongside the added small percentage of 0.25% in her 15% lotion. The reason I added the conditioner this year was because a member on here saw extra results whilst he was already on finesteride. Considering it was fairly cheap to add I decided to add this as I never used a conditioner and tend to wash my hair twice per day although I do oil my scalp daily at night.

    OGV method is Onion-Garlic-Apple Cider Vinegar method. You can YouTube OGV Hairloss and will see some videos especially one guy who regrew his hair. I was very interested in this method as Garlic kills any bacteria and onion has high Sulphur which is great for hair growth.

    I use to work out a lot but due to life circumstances I have been lazy. Diet is a key point to healing your body internally. As for shoulder tendinitis you could YouTube again several methods are provided on YouTube by great physicians/PT instructors show to heal shoulder injuries with certain exercise etc.

    I hope that answers your questions, anything else .

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