Dr Klein promox patients! Read if you need help.

[Plan C]

Both Promox and Medical Wellness Center have good prescribed medications you can take.

I should know. Not sure why this thread is saying Promox is gone, they're definitely not.

I thought that Promox was dead and MWC just did prescriptions? What's the highest % minoxidil that they do as a liquid solution?

[k9gatton]

Promox sells 15%, but they would probably do higher if you asked them to (and the doctor approved it).

That said, I didn't think Murray did their 30% scripted product to people living outside the United States? That's news to me.

I purchase non hair related medication, from MedicalWellnessCenter.com.

[Plan C]

This thread was created at the time Dr Klein passed away. I was an EX Dr Klein patient for years until his EX wife Dorrie and her husband Tony who worked at Dr Kleins clinic decided to scrap promox and stopped selling the products at the time.

That’s when I found Murray Avenue Apothecary, also to add Promox is no longer shipped international at this current time, so patients like me and other international clients use The Medical Wellnes Center.

Jazz - thanks for getting back to me. It's good to hear from you.

I like the 15% lotion, but if I use too much it makes me feel grotty and tired the next day, and I find it difficult to apply as my hair is long.

I wonder if Susan is able to produce the formula as a spray/liquid solution?

[Plan C]

Promox sells 15%, but they would probably do higher if you asked them to (and the doctor approved it).

That said, I didn't think Murray did their 30% scripted product to people living outside the United States? That's news to me.

I purchase non hair related medication, from MedicalWellnessCenter.com.

I like the look of the Promox 10% spray but it doesn't appear that they ship outside of the US.

[k9gatton]

Well fingers crossed and it's better for you as they based in US where I'm in the uk, that's what I really want aswell they already formulate the lotion and cream side of things. But the pharmacist is 100% confident she can formulate the spray, they use proper lab equipment il post full details once they confirm everything. Right now I need to post them the products I have on Tuesday, luckily I have some 10% DMI prescription spray left. I'm also trying to make sure they charge us the same price we payed Dr Klein, I'm going to tell them to lower cost as possible so all his ex patients can give them the business and we can carry on getting what we use currently.

I have given up on Dorrie at Dr kleins office, I been feeling low since he passed away, I been messaging Dorrie to help find a doctor and I had no luck! Also the fact they only selling 5% bloody minxodiol means us old patients could lose ground as some of us have been using high grade stuff for years!

You're just getting money off these people. Let me say this, your name is still on the medicalwellnesscenter list. I don't believe you at all. And Regenere sells everywhere in the United States.

You are such a con artist.

They can get ******* from Canada if they're interested in that.

[k9gatton]

For people that are reading these posts, If you live in the UK, there are a LOT more options
for getting high Minoxidil than the United States. There's MinoxidilKing, and lots of others.

I wouldn't really listen to what is being said here. Also, Regenere DOES sell Promox, and has
been doing so for some time.

[k9gatton]

I like the look of the Promox 10% spray but it doesn't appear that they ship outside of the US.

They don't.

If you live in Europe, there are a lot of other high Minoxidil sellers. Quite a lot, actually.

[Plan C]

Right to add can you provide us forum members that are based in the U.K. with an alternative then? Considering your bashing me for trying to help everyone I will let you help everyone now as you seem so smart.

We U.K. patients want the same topical formula, I do not want a simple based 15% minoxidil without any additives, as the above mentioned site does not provide any DHT or Anti androgen blockers in their formula.

15% minoxidil
5% azelaic acid
0.1% finesteride
0.25% progesterone
0.025% tretinoin
0.1% hydrocortisone.


Hope you can help us now, as you seem very smart . To add guys minoxidil alone regardless what Strenght will not prevent Hairloss, unless combined with DHT blockers or Anti androgen blockers.

Jazz - just applied for a new prescription with MWC. I noticed that, as per your quoted message, Susan's 15% formula now contains azelaic acid 5% rather than 1.5% and no biotin 3%? Any idea why?

Thanks for your ongoing help and apologies that my posts seem to have earned you a bit of a bashing!

[Plan C]

Hey no worries, I can understand certain people being fustrated as mentioned before I have nothing to prove to anyone. I do not get paid a single penny, I mentioned before in this post the only monetary gains is slight extra discount and I never asked MWC to publish my name on their site, as mentioned as good gesture they have given me extra discount!.

Let’s rephrase when Dr Klein passed away I was the one who searched and set this up for the members to help everyone along with myself. People who panicked were left stranded without 15% mixture! Also to add the fact Murray Avenue at the time was the only place providing the mixture when Dr Klein passed away. I was the one who set up and pushed Murray Avenue to provide the forum members with 10% discount on 3 bottles purchased.

I have nothing to hide and as mentioned I am more than happy to post my receipts as I pay for my products, I truly enjoy helping members and to the people who know me, you know exactly my nature.

Let’s also add the members who have offered to PayPal me “GIFT” money for helping them! Never once have I taken a single penny for helping anyone and I never will as that’s not my nature!

Right back on topic, I also added 5% azelaic acid to my mixture from 1.5%, as Dr Lee used 5% in his mixtures.

The biotin was never added to the minoxidil mixtures? I always purchased their Acetyl Glutathione/Biotin/Vitamin E mixture.

I would consider a complete diet remape, have a good liquid multi vitamin/mineral formula, Nature’s Alive brand is the one I use. Also cut down on acidic foods, as high acidic foods upregulate type 2 DHT in the scalp. I am not claiming food will cure your Hairloss, it will sure help along side Finasteride and work alongside your bodies chemistry.


What is you full regime and current state of your Hairloss? Maybe I might be able to suggest extra additional products to add in your regiment, not too expensive to help your Hairloss.

Hi Jazz,

Mine definitely contains 3% biotin (looking at the formula on the bottle as I type). Do you think that I should continue to request that they include it?

Up until last week, I was using 5% RU58441 and Susan's 15% minoxidil on alternate days, as well as dut every day. This has maintained excellent density but has not quite stopped the receding at my temples.

I'm now trying 7.5% RU58441 and Susan's 15% minoxidil every day. I'm seriously considering switching dut for fin, due to an issue it is causing 'downstairs', which I'll cover in a separate thread.

[k9gatton]

That’s fine I respect your views, as mentioned before if you care to check all threads and posts dating back to 2012, plus when Dr Klein passed away you will understand the reason behind my threads and posts. I always praised Dr Klein for years until he passed away.

In regards to my name being placed on their website, I never asked for this and neither do I make money or gain any monetary needs from any company. I pay for my products and I am more than happy to proof. As mentioned I have nothing to prove to you or anyone as I help people from my heart not for money needs like most people in this world.

Yeah right. You don't make money off of it, but your name is on their website as to who referred you. You are so full of crap. Nobody believes you.

[Plan C]

Hey I would request keeping biotin at no additional request, be carefully to add multi vitamin and not too much biotin as you might break out in cystic acne if you deplete pantothenic acid but taking too much biotin, keep it balanced.

What have you added in Sudan’s 15% mixture as I always mentioned previously regardless of high grade minoxidil it will not do much if your not blocking the DHT cause.

I always cleanse my scalp daily with Dawn and then I use a mixture of different shampoo twice per day. I use kETACONAZOLE based and PIROCTONE OLAMINE. I also oils my scalp every other day considering I’m stripping my scalp clean. I would cos order checking your diet and also your tap water/drinking water.

A good website regarding diet scalp calcification, whilst I do not advocate diet curing Hairloss, it can possibly help with the body chemistry regarding DHT and Androgen regulators.

What’s your full regime and products with all additives and ingredients?

Hi,

So up until recently I was using:
- 0.5mg dutasteride every day
- 85mg RU58841 in 0.5ml PG & 1.25ml ethanol on alternate days
- 15% minoxidil (w/ azelaic acid 1.5%, finasteride 0.1%, retinoic acid 0.025%, progesterone 0.25%, hydrocortisone 0.1% and biotin 3%) on alternate days

For the past few weeks, I've changed to:
- 0.5mg dutasteride every day (might switch to finasteride when I've run out)
- 75mg RU58841 in 0.3ml PG & 0.7ml ethanol every day
- 15% minoxidil (w/ azelaic acid 1.5%, finasteride 0.1%, retinoic acid 0.025%, progesterone 0.25%, hydrocortisone 0.1% and biotin 3%) every day

The only shampoo I use is Jason Thin to Thick, which is biotin-rich and SLS-free. I take a multivitamin, omega 3 and bacopa monnieri as supplements.

Funnily enough, since I've switched to using the minoxidil compound every day, I've broken out in acne (which is very unusual for me). Looks as though I've messed up my pantothenic acid levels, as you predicted.

I bought more minoxidil from Susan yesterday with the standard formula, i.e. 5% azelaic acid rather than 1.5% and no biotin. Apparently, she stopped including biotin as it made the compound unstable and too viscous.

My view is that I wasn't benefiitting from the RU or minoxidil by using them on alternate days. Hopefully using them every day will produce the results I'm after, and I'll be able to switch dutasteride for finasteride. With zero biotin in the new minoxidil compound, I assume acne won't be an issue. Using 0.75ml less solution with the RU is helping it absorb much quicker, allowing me enough time to use minoxidil afterwards.

[Alex5]

Hey

I'm new here so sorry for being clueless. I'm currently using 10% minoxidil cream from Belgravia hair clinic which is costing £150 every 3 months

I read some of the posts here and keep seeing the name Susan and "Susan's 15% minoxidil (w/ azelaic acid".

Would getting this be a better than the Belgravia's 10% formula? Also how much does it cost?

[angelogab]

Hey Jazz1, I am experiencing thinning all over my scalp or DUPA. I was wondering if you know someone who has a success story with DUPA? i'm thinking of trying Susan's formula but not sure if it will work since apparently minox and fin doesn't work well with DUPA.

[doke]

I still see hairgrowth md is running Dr Klines promox and remox and you can add extra $20 latisse to the formula they are also selling higher strength minoxidil you only thing is you have to pay $65 for a consultation before you can order like susans made up formulas not sure if jazz has tried it or anyone else myself now i have hit 60yrs old am tired of applying chems to me scalp and now using new schwarzkopf 3D man shampoo which contains taurine and L Carnitine i also added 5% L carnitine and melotonin powder to the mix.

[angelogab]

Hey Jazz1, thanks for the reply!

Here are my answers:
How long have you been experiencing this condition? Started since I was about 15
Have you been diagnosed or did you self diagnose? I went to a hair transplant doctor and he said I wasn't a good candidate for it. That was 3 years ago.
What have you used or currently use? I used finasteride for 6 months before but I read that it doesn't work well for people with DUPA so I stopped.As of now, I'm not using anything. Just Nizoral to control my seborrheic dermatitis.

I had some tests for hypo/hyperthyroidism and they came out as normal. No test for deficiencies tho. I also got SMP since my top is diffused but now I'm starting to see the horseshoe hairloss in MBP.

What I'm thinking then is that I am now going thru the norwood scale after my scalp has diffused all over. I'm just not sure if fin or minoxidil would work since almost everyone who has this condition didn't achieve results (or they just stopped talking in the forums).