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  • Jazz1
    Inactive
    • Aug 2012
    • 1598

    Originally posted by johnnyboots
    Just gonna reorder the right way lol, so just give Katz a email?will he know promox ingredients ?can I call her directly I paid for prescription earlier
    They won't know the exact ingredients but I know all the formulas, what is it exactly you want promox lotion ingredients? What ingredients lotion did you currently order?

    I'm sure they can edit your prescription and re email Susan. Before you email them tell me what you need so I can tell you the correct mixture?


    wellnessmd@yahoo.com

    Promox lotion contained:

    15% minoxidil
    0.1% finesteride
    1.5% azelaic acid
    0.25% progesterone
    0.025% tretinoin.
    Tripeptide biotinoyl-L 3%.

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    • Parsia
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 147

      Originally posted by Jazz1
      Guys/ladies I'm getting a lot of emails and I think one girl or lady ordering from Susan I can't recall how many emails or people I'm trying to help. If your that girl/lady please email me as I might be recommending this lotion that's for men, you probably need lower dosage if your new client lady.

      Susan said it sounded like a girls name Parsha or something, if it's a guy then you need the finesteride in the formula if it's a girl than you shouldn't be using 15%! Either way email me again so I can guide you.
      Hello Jazz , Sorry if I get back to you later, I haven't use my account here for about 1 year and half and I was near to register to answer you then I've noticed that I had an account and need to reset pass and etc. Anyhow , my name is Parsia , and I know you from a year ago in this forum , first I want to say I was the guy who talks with Susan and thanks for your concern buddy , So I'm not a girl : lol ( I know its not your fault , many do the same mistake because of how my first name look like ) , Second , I was thinking to remove fin from Promox because I really have some doubt if it works very well , and right know I use fin orally 0.5 mg , thats why I asked susan to remove that from " Jazz forumla " , Third regard to DR.Klein dead , I just want to say the only reason that I didn't buy any product from him was because he was not very honest with me , he gave me a fake discount on the phone and then I told him its even more expensive than your website price!!! how it come to be a discount? then he changed his words and said he did a mistake. In addition what was the reason to use a product 4 times in a day? I asked him this question and he got angry and told me you should use it 4 times or you don't get result.
      Because of all these reasons I changed my mind and canceled my order with him last year. Furthermore , I Know you are a helpful guy and you got very good result with that and I respect to you , just wanna share with you and other guys that the only reason that I didn't given a shot to " promox " was because I had doubt in DR.KLEIN honestly . If you have any comment or explain about promox please let me know , how about use the same of your regimen without fin topical since I already have it orally ,have any suggestion?

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      • Jazz1
        Inactive
        • Aug 2012
        • 1598

        Hey yes I remember you now and I remember telling you not to listen to Dr Klein as I never used his products 4 times a day your right it was an overkill and expensive if you did.

        The good part about Susan she's straight up honest and knowledgeable and stated clearly there's no need to waste money you only need it once per day.

        Now have you placed your order with Susan? What ingredients did you add if so? That way I can go by helping you. Also post your full regime below and how is your Hairloss?

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        • Parsia
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 147

          Originally posted by Jazz1
          Hey yes I remember you now and I remember telling you not to listen to Dr Klein as I never used his products 4 times a day your right it was an overkill and expensive if you did.

          The good part about Susan she's straight up honest and knowledgeable and stated clearly there's no need to waste money you only need it once per day.

          Now have you placed your order with Susan? What ingredients did you add if so? That way I can go by helping you. Also post your full regime below and how is your Hairloss?
          Thanks Jazz for your concern and your quick respond . Right now I use :
          1- Rogaine foam 5 % 2x daily
          2- Finpecia ( Finasteride ) 0.5mg daily
          3- Prox-n ( on hairline at night)
          4- Nizoral shampoo rotate with Pura d'or argan oil shampoo
          5- Biotin 5000mg and Multiviatimin .

          Here is my whole regimen and I just want to get the same as yours but just not make sure about fin , since I already start it in my regimen and I really not sure about topical fin , So whats your suggestion Jazz?

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          • Parsia
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 147

            I forgot to add say that I haven't place my order yet and I have hairloss from when I was 18 , now I'm 31 and I think I'm in narwood 3-3.5 , my hairloss was not very agressive in these 13 years. I got good result with lipogaine few months ago but I have stopped it unfortunately , In addition I always used the product on and off before because I wasn't enough patient but this time I really want to keep going on them , because I learn from my mistakes.

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            • Jazz1
              Inactive
              • Aug 2012
              • 1598

              Right that is a really good regime don't stop! Has your hairloss stabilised at that regime or are you still losing ground? If your losing ground than I would add 0.1% finesteride to the mixture, if your not losing ground than I would go without finesteride in the mixture.

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              • Parsia
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 147

                Originally posted by Jazz1
                Right that is a really good regime don't stop! Has your hairloss stabilised at that regime or are you still losing ground? If your losing ground than I would add 0.1% finesteride to the mixture, if your not losing ground than I would go without finesteride in the mixture.
                Dear Jazz , I have started this regimen recently( about two weeks) , so honestly I can't say about losing ground because of shedding process , I really like to know if fin topical works or not ? Honestly I'm not too sure that fin works topically , I know there are few studies about that but since I used polaris-NR10 and don't see that much of regrowth I have doubt about it , whats your personal opinion about this issue ? but for sure Retin-A and azelaic acid would work , Minoxidil 15 % is something which is still not very clear for me regard to more regrowth ! whats your thoughts?

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                • Plan C
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 341

                  Originally posted by Jazz1
                  Right that is a really good regime don't stop! Has your hairloss stabilised at that regime or are you still losing ground? If your losing ground than I would add 0.1% finesteride to the mixture, if your not losing ground than I would go without finesteride in the mixture.
                  Bottles arrived today. How do you apply the stuff? I have 1ml pipettes but it looks pretty thick (especially with hydrocortisone in there).

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                  • Jazz1
                    Inactive
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1598

                    Originally posted by Plan C
                    Bottles arrived today. How do you apply the stuff? I have 1ml pipettes but it looks pretty thick (especially with hydrocortisone in there).

                    Yes I beleive the added hydorcortisone makes the lotion thicker etc, did you not get a syringe 1ml. I would extract 1ml obviously shaking very well and then apply to your main areas of concer.

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                    • Jazz1
                      Inactive
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1598

                      Originally posted by Parsia
                      Dear Jazz , I have started this regimen recently( about two weeks) , so honestly I can't say about losing ground because of shedding process , I really like to know if fin topical works or not ? Honestly I'm not too sure that fin works topically , I know there are few studies about that but since I used polaris-NR10 and don't see that much of regrowth I have doubt about it , whats your personal opinion about this issue ? but for sure Retin-A and azelaic acid would work , Minoxidil 15 % is something which is still not very clear for me regard to more regrowth ! whats your thoughts?
                      Dr kleins products worked he has so many ex clients like me because the fact his products worked. I have Polaris NR-11 and NR-10 I posted pictures I never used them as I found Susan since Dr Klein passed away. Polaris labs does not appeal much to me, the NR-10 has to much gritty un mixed minoxidil, It doesn't look very effective to me .

                      See picture below as proof I have them all:
                      Polaris, Promox(we can't buy anymore), Susan's product.



                      My personal opinion nothing ever beat Dr Klein stuff since he Is dead the closest thing we now have is Susan. I'm just very thankfull i found her as her product works exactly the same as Dr Klein. Also bare in mind no doctor formulated these products they are sent to a compounding pharmacist to formulate, not every person can formulate products to be effective. I contacted different pharmacist in US before finding Susan, most of them said they couldn't mix all the ingredients with anything over 5% minoxidil. Dr kleins pharmacist had different ways and Susan knows her ways to mix them correctly to work together etc.

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                      • Plan C
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 341

                        Originally posted by Jazz1
                        Yes I beleive the added hydorcortisone makes the lotion thicker etc, did you not get a syringe 1ml. I would extract 1ml obviously shaking very well and then apply to your main areas of concer.
                        I've tried extracting 1ml but the stuff is so thick it gets stuck in the syringe. Not sure if getting hydrocortisone included was a wise decision as the mixture might now be too thick to penetrate my scalp properly.

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                        • Jazz1
                          Inactive
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1598

                          Originally posted by Plan C
                          I've tried extracting 1ml but the stuff is so thick it gets stuck in the syringe. Not sure if getting hydrocortisone included was a wise decision as the mixture might now be too thick to penetrate my scalp properly.
                          Do you have a pump squirt with it? Take a picture, sounds like its the hydorcortisone that's made it thicker etc but I'm sure it will work the same as they been selling the stuff for years.

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                          • Jazz1
                            Inactive
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1598

                            Guys I just want to thank the people who email me with kind words, it's positive nice words that make me happy to carry on helping people , thank you God bless all.

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                            • Plan C
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 341

                              My experience of this stuff has not been great so far. All I have noticed is that a) applying my usual RU in Neogenic mixture today felt like somebody was tattooing my temples (think Susan's product must be irritating my scalp) and b) Susan's stuff is so thick that a lot of it remains on my head, rather than being absorbed.

                              Some of this is probably my fault for opting to have 3% biotin added to the usual formula.

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                              • Jazz1
                                Inactive
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1598

                                Originally posted by Plan C
                                My experience of this stuff has not been great so far. All I have noticed is that a) applying my usual RU in Neogenic mixture today felt like somebody was tattooing my temples (think Susan's product must be irritating my scalp) and b) Susan's stuff is so thick that a lot of it remains on my head, rather than being absorbed.

                                Some of this is probably my fault for opting to have 3% biotin added to the usual formula.
                                The irritation is from Tretinoin I have had the same irritation at the start 2 years back when I first applied Dr kleins lotion. When I would apply Regaine foam over the areas I applied Dr kleins products it would sting for a few seconds, that's because tretinoin irritates the skin. It took a month or two until my scalp adjusted to tretinoin. You can search threads on hairlosshelp about tretinoin in Promox irritating the scalp, Sandman advised me to carry on and I did, he was right things adjusted etc.

                                The tretinoin is a key in the mixture because it helps penetrate the ingredients more deeper so they work more effectively in the derma papila, also tretinoin is known to interrupt the DHT synthesis., aswell as stimulate regrowth from the irritation give it time you probably end up happier if you see regrowth.

                                Watch this video by Dr Klein:

                                Dr. Klein at http://www.HairGrowthMD.com, teaches about the causes and treatment of hair loss.

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