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    I think gyno surgery is about 5k, maybe a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngandearly View Post
    Now Finasteride is a type 2 5alpha-reductase inhibitor with a short half life (4-6 hours). It is worth noting that the halflife of the 5ar enzyme is much longer than the half life of the drug. All of the studies on fin show that it is generally safe with a very low chance of side effects. It is available in 1 mg (propecia) for hair and 5 mg (proscar) tablets for prostate with the 5mg also available as a generic due to the patent running out.

    There is also a dual 5ar inhibitor called Dutasteride that has a much longer half life (4+ weeks) and inhibits both type 1 and 2 5ar. It is available as a .5mg liquid gel capsule (avodart) which cannot be split into smaller doses. It generally has the same side effects but at higher incidences and they would theoretically last longer because of the long half life.

    It is worth noting that type 2 5ar is found mostly in the skin and prostate. Type 1 5ar is found in many body tissues including the brain. So dut may have side effects that fin does not.

    The side effects you should consider are as follows, loss of libido, inability to acheive erection, thinning of beard or body hair, testicular ache, gynecomastia (breast growth), and possibly a more feminine body fat distribution. Some people also claim that it can cause "brain fog" ie difficulty thinking. The sexual side effects mostly go away after stopping treatment, the fat distribution/breast development does not. The incidence of all side effects is generally low and way over-hyped but could be devastating if you are one of the unlucky few.

    I have not experience any of these side effects except for the ball ache during the first week only and maybe puffy nipples (I may have had them to begin with). My libido hasn't changed apreciably and no problems with erections. Can't really say about body or facial hair, because I shave both but there doesn't seem to be any change. Definitely no brain fog or anything like that.

    Bottom line, Dut is stronger but i recommend starting with Fin due to lower incidence of side effects and having something stronger to fall back on if fin does not work for you or loses effectivness. The fact that fin is available as a generic and you can split the 5 mg dose into quarters to save even more money is just a bonus, not to mention the shorter half life if you have to stop. You should discuss the risks and benefits with a doctor, considering you will have to see a doctor for a for a script anyways.

    Where are you on the norwood scale and how long have you noticed the loss? what is your family history of hair loss?
    So it can make you store fat easier on your body yet somehow simultaneously cause fat loss on your face? lol, how is that possible?

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