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    Quote Originally Posted by rhysmorgan View Post
    This is based on the assumption that everyone attends conferences. This is not the case. If anything, we've gotten the clear impression that the secrecy of the hair loss science world means it may be possible there's something near release and we just don't know about it.

    It's a shame that hair loss researchers are so anti academic in this regard. It's all about protecting their profit.
    I can't blame them for being secretive. No one wants to see others profit from a copycat version of their hard work. This happens a lot. A great illustration of this was woven in a "Breaking Bad" script where Schwartz used Walter's research to make millions:

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    "Elliott Schwartz is Walt's grad-school colleague. Elliott, his wife Gretchen, and Walt collaborated on the scientific research that led to Elliott's Nobel Prize and thriving business, Gray Matter. But by the time their business achieved success, Walt — as Gretchen describes it — had "abandoned me and Elliott." Walt sees things differently: "My hard work, my research," he says. "And you and Elliott made millions off it."

    At a birthday party for Elliott, Walt sees Skyler and Elliott deep in conversation. Moments later, Elliott offers Walt a job, mentioning that the health insurance is excellent. Walt whisks Skyler out of the party and accuses her of putting Elliott up to providing charity: When Walt turned down the job offer, Elliott offered to pay for his treatment outright.

    Walt later lies to Skyler and says that Elliott is indeed paying for his cancer treatments, though in fact Walt's drug profits are financing it. His deception goes undetected until Skyler, who calls Gretchen trying to figure out why Walt had a second cell phone, learns that Elliott contributed nothing."


    Men and women of course have their pride in accomplishment and seriously don't want anyone to profit from their research/ideas/inventions.

    Fiction, yes, but this kind of thing happens time and time again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35YrsAfter View Post
    I can't blame them for being secretive. No one wants to see others profit from a copycat version of their hard work. This happens a lot. A great illustration of this was woven in a "Breaking Bad" script where Schwartz used Walter's research to make millions:

    Overview:
    "Elliott Schwartz is Walt's grad-school colleague. Elliott, his wife Gretchen, and Walt collaborated on the scientific research that led to Elliott's Nobel Prize and thriving business, Gray Matter. But by the time their business achieved success, Walt — as Gretchen describes it — had "abandoned me and Elliott." Walt sees things differently: "My hard work, my research," he says. "And you and Elliott made millions off it."

    At a birthday party for Elliott, Walt sees Skyler and Elliott deep in conversation. Moments later, Elliott offers Walt a job, mentioning that the health insurance is excellent. Walt whisks Skyler out of the party and accuses her of putting Elliott up to providing charity: When Walt turned down the job offer, Elliott offered to pay for his treatment outright.

    Walt later lies to Skyler and says that Elliott is indeed paying for his cancer treatments, though in fact Walt's drug profits are financing it. His deception goes undetected until Skyler, who calls Gretchen trying to figure out why Walt had a second cell phone, learns that Elliott contributed nothing."


    Men and women of course have their pride in accomplishment and seriously don't want anyone to profit from their research/ideas/inventions.

    Fiction, yes, but this kind of thing happens time and time again.

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    Sure, just think it's a shame, that's all. Not really heavily criticising them for it, just an observation really. Anyway you look at it though, it is anti academic.

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    histogen is done...even spencer knows it. he said in one of his last shows that our only hope for the next five years is bim

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheLoss View Post
    histogen is done...even spencer knows it. he said in one of his last shows that our only hope for the next five years is bim
    Reasoning?

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    It's fairly obvious. They haven't had a press release about it in over a year. They lost their investor and never gained another one.

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    I've seen from 2 years ago pics of the initial trial. Those pics are very disappointing. Are there any pics from follow-up trials since?

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    Sorry but I'm confused (and new to this board so hi) but looking at histogens website it says phases 1/2 have been completed, or have I miss understood?? Also the figures they quote are very impressive so surely if they were achieving those results they would release sooner rather than later or do you think they feel they can get even better once the treatment is perfected??

    Thanks and don't bite my head off if the above is total rubbish

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    Histogen is DEAD...

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    has anyone had any contact with histogen? I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to get an investor when their results were clearly superior to fin/minox and it's an injectable treatment, so it would only have to be done every few years...i mean COME ON...they had results still improving TWO YEARS AFTER the treatment.


    I hate to say it, but histogen is dead..sad to see them go as I would have paid thousands for their treatment as is.

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    the acquisitions made by histogen recently only shows how strong financially they are. the results they have show will attract investors; unless there are complications and serious side effects of their product. once they tell us that they are done, we can say they are; and we will be wondering why. I said that about follica and now we know for sure that they are not successful with their methods and they need money, basically useless for us. we are one clinical trial away from a release.

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