The Real Reason Hair Loss Will Never Be Cured

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4423

    #16
    Originally posted by Mike K
    The real reason that hair loss will never be cured is not that wig makers, transplant surgeons, and drug companies would lose money.
    False.

    Transplant surgeons would make MORE money. If you grow follicles like Dr. Lauster's team has done in a bioreactor.... who is going to implant them? And with a viable solution like that, you'd have more men going in for the procedure considering you dont have any scars in a donor area nor are you limited to 4-6,000 follicles from the donor area.

    Furthermore, wig makers are few and drug companies? Which ones..?? Merck? Because Minoxidil is generic, its patent has long since expired which leaves us with just ONE shitty treatment; Finasteride.

    A cure like that would actually BOOST the market.

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    • fred970
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 924

      #17
      It's 4000-6000 grafts, not follicles. That would be roughly 9000-13000 follicles.

      And the scarring from FUE is virtually invisible to the naked eye. But maybe I'm just saying that because I have my first FUE the day after tomorrow .

      But you're right, less limitations, more people will want to go for a hair transplant, so more profit for hair transplant surgeons.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4423

        #18
        The limitations of grafts available from the donor area is the #1 reason why more men don't opt for a hair transplant. If you had an infinite supply of follicles from a bioreactor like the one Dr. Gerd Lindner created, you can bet both your libido-lacking-finasteride-induced testicles the market for hair transplants would EXPLODE.

        If released today, the demand for such a procedure would outnumber the supply of hair transplant doctors by a ridiculous number... and that's not even up for debate. HT doctors would quickly find themselves booked for a long time to come... and anyone else wanting to make cash would enter this industry. Competition would eventually rise and drive the prices for the procedure lower than what we could expect them to be initially. Whichever country has a hair loss treatment available first will reap the benefits from taxes significantly. USA alone has a revenue of over 1 billion dollars on hair products that DONT EVEN WORK.

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        • Mike K
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 199

          #19
          Hellouser I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying the reason is not that anyone would lose money. I agree that there is more money to be made. I'm just saying the average person thinks that hair loss is cured. They think that it is easy to regrow hair, that hair transplant surgery is the easiest solution, that not doing either of these things is laziness and letting yourself go, and that hairpieces are ridiculous because there are so many other options available. Obviously (to us) all these ideas are false, but from the average person's perspective hair loss is cured, and that is why it will never actually be cured.

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          • fred970
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 924

            #20
            Mike is right. I've had my peers patronizing me at university when I was 20 and so down about my balding telling me that their father was bald too. That when they "become bald", they'll just have a hair transplant and be done with. Right! They don't even realise that to have a hair transplant, you have to lose your hair first, and that it takes years, sometimes even decades! But no, they think they wake up one morning and are like "oh I'm balding, let's have a hair transplant to solve it once and for all! Fred was such an idiot to be depressed about this. I'm smarter!"

            Morons.

            Like hellouser, sometimes I despise people and society.

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            • 35YrsAfter
              Doctor Representative
              • Aug 2012
              • 1421

              #21
              Originally posted by Mike K
              Hellouser I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying the reason is not that anyone would lose money. I agree that there is more money to be made. I'm just saying the average person thinks that hair loss is cured. They think that it is easy to regrow hair, that hair transplant surgery is the easiest solution, that not doing either of these things is laziness and letting yourself go, and that hairpieces are ridiculous because there are so many other options available. Obviously (to us) all these ideas are false, but from the average person's perspective hair loss is cured, and that is why it will never actually be cured.
              In your view, the existing treatments are considered sufficient by most and a "cure" is not a priority largely due to that popular view. Although there is some truth to that theory, I believe all three listed below play a role but the last two are the main roadblocks:

              1.) The "good enough" mindset as an obstacle has merit. For example, hair transplant doctors gave their patients large plug grafts for around 30 years even though the results never looked natural.

              2.) Even though a cure would be worth billions, there is very little formal research taking place.

              3.) According to an oncologist I spoke with, making something grow has an associated cancer risk. I believe cancer risk is the obstacle, researchers have not yet found an effective way to control.

              35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
              forhair.com
              Cole Hair Transplant
              1070 Powers Place
              Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
              Phone 678-566-1011
              email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
              The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
              Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
              Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 05-13-2014, 06:23 AM.

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              • Mike K
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 199

                #22
                Originally posted by fred970
                Mike is right. I've had my peers patronizing me at university when I was 20 and so down about my balding telling me that their father was bald too. That when they "become bald", they'll just have a hair transplant and be done with. Right! They don't even realise that to have a hair transplant, you have to lose your hair first, and that it takes years, sometimes even decades! But no, they think they wake up one morning and are like "oh I'm balding, let's have a hair transplant to solve it once and for all! Fred was such an idiot to be depressed about this. I'm smarter!"

                Morons.

                Like hellouser, sometimes I despise people and society.
                This is why I come to these forums: Y'all get it. Everyone else thinks I'm being ridiculous.

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                • brandeis
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 3

                  #23
                  Sorry guys , i have not baldness problem because i use only natural or herbal shampoo from my childhood. I think chemical shampoo and hair gel occurs baldness problem.

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                  • fred970
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 924

                    #24
                    Originally posted by brandeis
                    Sorry guys , i have not baldness problem because i use only natural or herbal shampoo from my childhood. I think chemical shampoo and hair gel occurs baldness problem.
                    Die! Wait, learn English first, then die!

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                    • lepke
                      Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 39

                      #25
                      we can always combat it.

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                      • Mike K
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 199

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lepke
                        we can always combat it.
                        Yea but for many of us the side effects totally blow.

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                        • WonderBang
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 5

                          #27
                          Well hair loss will be cured 100% sure. Gene editing will allow you to change whatever aspects of your body, including hair. So once this technique is available, companies won't work on drugs anymore, and not only hair loss drugs. And gene therapy research is much much more funded than hair loss research. Already we can change genes in a blind and/or paralyzed mouse and make it move and see again perfectly. Just a matter of time. Gene editing will kill pharmaceutical companies for good, because once you change your gene by another gene that grow hairs forever, you won't need anything else. It is a single bullet treatment, not a every 2 months injections or something.

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                          • Ronnie32
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 8

                            #28
                            Originally posted by WonderBang
                            Well hair loss will be cured 100% sure. Gene editing will allow you to change whatever aspects of your body, including hair. So once this technique is available, companies won't work on drugs anymore, and not only hair loss drugs. And gene therapy research is much much more funded than hair loss research. Already we can change genes in a blind and/or paralyzed mouse and make it move and see again perfectly. Just a matter of time. Gene editing will kill pharmaceutical companies for good, because once you change your gene by another gene that grow hairs forever, you won't need anything else. It is a single bullet treatment, not a every 2 months injections or something.
                            Agree totally

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                            • Randomname
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 4

                              #29
                              How did you deal with balding as a teen? I'm also balding in high school and it's really tough.

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                              • 35YrsAfter
                                Doctor Representative
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1421

                                #30
                                Originally posted by WonderBang
                                Well hair loss will be cured 100% sure. Gene editing will allow you to change whatever aspects of your body, including hair. So once this technique is available, companies won't work on drugs anymore, and not only hair loss drugs. And gene therapy research is much much more funded than hair loss research. Already we can change genes in a blind and/or paralyzed mouse and make it move and see again perfectly. Just a matter of time. Gene editing will kill pharmaceutical companies for good, because once you change your gene by another gene that grow hairs forever, you won't need anything else. It is a single bullet treatment, not a every 2 months injections or something.
                                You're right. That's the ticket.

                                For example, gene editing is similar to actually replacing gaskets or bearings in a car's engine rather than using a liquid quick fix like stop knock or a stop leak product... similar in my mind to the pharmaceutical quick fix. Some pharmaceutical drugs can be lifesavers while others are just a substitute for a good diet and exercise.

                                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office - forhair.com - Cole Hair Transplant, 1045 Powers Place, Alpharetta, Georgia 30009 - Phone 678-566-1011 - email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                                The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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