Gaz when are you going for your next procedure?

[gc83uk]

Hey Gaz,

What I meant was measuring the density, by cutting out a square cm like you did before.

Anyway what you did, measuring the donor size is interesting too. I always talk about 200 cm2, but it really depends on how you measure it. I just measured mine again. You talk about 'ear to ear', if you take that as borders of the donor, then you indeed will get (way) less than 200 cm2. I took the whole area, extending beyond the ears to the hairline. I do realize that it seems most clinics do not use that area beyond the ears, I wonder why that is though, maybe because that area is more difficult to extract from ? Also it seems density is naturally lower on the sides than on the back (as also noted in that thesis that I linked to in my earlier post in this thread)

If you google, then you will find that an average caucasian has about 100.000 hairs on his scalp. Like noted before, average density for a caucasian is about 200 hairs/cm2, so that would be 500 cm2 in total of hair on an average scalp. In such case 300 cm2 recipient and 200 cm2 donor would seem like a fair estimate (3:2 ratio), but again, it does matter of course if you go beyond the ears or not ... And I also think that 6 cm on the back is really on the low end, I think it's more like 7-7.5, but that also depends on how 'deep' and 'high' you go of course ...

Yea I will measure the density, just thought I'd start with this because it was quick/easy. I think the donor area can go lower than what hasci extracted from, however looking at the pics i'm pretty sure they haven't used an area of more than 6cm on my head at least. If anything I wish they would have extracted lower down to even it out more. I just wanted to start with the area that hasci have been extracting from. I personally think they could go at least 2 or 3cm below my scar, don't know what you think about that? I'm pretty sure that is safeish zone.

Also if they have indeed only used an area of 130cm2 ish. And taken 5000 grafts from that, then that would mean they have taken 38 HST grafts, which will equate to approx 50 hairs per cm2 extracted.

All very rough, but probably close to what has happened.

Even if I have underestimated and it's closer to say 150cm2, then that would be 45 hairs per cm2 extracted I suppose. Not proving any points here, just trying to state what has been extracted.

[byson999]

Hi Gaz. We have spoken before through emails. Congrats on the baby I wish and your wife all the best in the future! Your hair looks great man! I am so pleased for you and it seems like HASCI have excelled themselves with your case or at least confirmed some of there claims. I have just one question Gaz. When you shave your head to a 0 or blade it. Do you see any scarring at all? Or is there absolutely none? The reason I ask this is because Dr Gho mentioned in his interview with Spencer that after so many grafts are extracted you can eventually see some white dotting present.

[Arashi]

and it seems like HASCI have excelled themselves with your case or at least confirmed some of there claims.

How is that exactly ?

[byson999]

Arashi I am considering going for treatment with HASCI and I just want to know that if I am not satisfied with the treatment do I have the option to blade my head. It seems Dean Saunders shaved his head to a 0 after 3 treatments but is it possible to totally blade after HASCI without any evidence of surgery? Please answer me as this is all I need to know. Thanks

[Arashi]

Arashi I am considering going for treatment with HASCI and I just want to know that if I am not satisfied with the treatment do I have the option to blade my head. It seems Dean Saunders shaved his head to a 0 after 3 treatments but is it possible to totally blade after HASCI without any evidence of surgery? Please answer me as this is all I need to know. Thanks

Well I can't guarantee it since I never shaved it to 0 myself. I did shave it to 3mm as almost a daily routine though and at 3 mm you can't see it for sure, so I'd be highly surprised you will see it at 0mm.

[byson999]

Appreciate the reply. It seems also with Gaz that he can shave to a 0 and there seems to be no scarring also Dean Saunders. I have still to see someone blade there head after it though. I know this seems like a stupid idea and your probably thinking why get a transplant and then balde. But for me I want to always have this option available to me. Do you no anyone who has bladed there head after HASCI?

[ss1980]

Appreciate the reply. It seems also with Gaz that he can shave to a 0 and there seems to be no scarring also Dean Saunders. I have still to see someone blade there head after it though. I know this seems like a stupid idea and your probably thinking why get a transplant and then balde. But for me I want to always have this option available to me. Do you no anyone who has bladed there head after HASCI?

I had 1400 grafts with hst and I shave to 0, with blade and there is no scarring whatsoever, at least nothing visible to human eye.
Why have HT and shave? Well I have a lot of area to cover(think gc x2) and 1400 grafts is not gonna look pretty grown out, as you know hst density sucks ballz, I will need ton of grafts and shitloads of $$ to create illusion of density but all im aiming for is 30-35 grafts per cm2. it will be good for shaving and wear it either as 0 or 2-3mm, it will look like Im doing it on purpose not bc im balding.

I ll be waiting to see what will happen to dr wesley as ghos procedure is a bit of a rip off since you are getting only .5-.6 graft compared to FUE, time consuming and he splits.

[byson999]

Sorry I am a little confused do you mean you shave to a 0 guard with clippers or do you use blade and totally zap it all off? I agree with what your doing If HASCI leaves no scars then why not aim for creating the illusion of density and have people think your choosing to shave and that you don't have to

[JJJJrS]

I had 1400 grafts with hst and I shave to 0, with blade and there is no scarring whatsoever, at least nothing visible to human eye.
Why have HT and shave? Well I have a lot of area to cover(think gc x2) and 1400 grafts is not gonna look pretty grown out, as you know hst density sucks ballz, I will need ton of grafts and shitloads of $$ to create illusion of density but all im aiming for is 30-35 grafts per cm2. it will be good for shaving and wear it either as 0 or 2-3mm, it will look like Im doing it on purpose not bc im balding.

I ll be waiting to see what will happen to dr wesley as ghos procedure is a bit of a rip off since you are getting only .5-.6 graft compared to FUE, time consuming and he splits.

When did you have it done didi?

[Arashi]

When did you have it done didi?

He's not Didi, Didi would never go to HASCI, of that I'm 100% sure

[JJJJrS]

He's not Didi, Didi would never go to HASCI, of that I'm 100% sure

He sounds a lot like didi but maybe ss1980 can respond and clear things up

[ss1980]

Who d fk is Didi? my double...


There is no need to show you pictures of my results because you wont see anything you havent seen before. By now we can recognize HSTs by low density and distinctive hairlines.

Am I satisfied? Not with density and coverage but at least option to shave is still available.

Im looking forward to dr wesleys scarless fue, imho it will beat hst by miles. Hope he can give us 2-3000 of 2.x grafts in one session

[byson999]

Fair point mate. I think having the option to shave is crucial and totally under valued ! I mean let's say one starts loosing more hair in the future or simply realises they have made a mistake and want to just move on and forget the whole thing! I have yet to see someone blade there head after hasci. The best case in regards to zero scarring is dean saunders . He seems to shave to a 0
Guard but I don't think he blades it. I would go in for it myself but before proceeding I must be absolutely certain that on no circumstance would there be any degree of white dotting . There are very few pictures I can find of guys who shave to a 0 or blade after it.