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  • 35YrsAfter
    Doctor Representative
    • Aug 2012
    • 1418

    #16
    Originally posted by Dboxler
    I appreciate all of your responses everyone and I'm in to women.. Haha even though it seems like I get more attention from the fellas... Haha oh well i guess
    It doesn't appear you have anything to worry about. You mentioned your father, but how's your mother's father's hair? Does she have brothers? How is their hair? When I was your age I definitely had something to be concerned about.

    I remember when I was 14, I was at a friend's house whose father had a full head of hair. My friend's grandfather on his mother's side was visiting one day when I was there and he was a Norwood 7. I still remember telling my friend that he would probably go bald one day. He wasn't happy to hear that at all. I hadn't seen him for years and he had since become a famous sports figure. He's now a Norwood 6. Your mother's father doesn't necessarily doom you to baldness, but you might want to have a look so you can be prepared and take some precautionary measures if you are so inclined.

    As a side note, I inherited Norwood 6 genes from both sides of my family. My dad was a Norwood 6 and his father had a full head of hair. His mother's father was bald. My mom's father was pretty bald at 40. On the up side, my wife has a beautiful head of hair and virtually no baldness I know of in her family. Her brother is over 50 and doesn't have a hint of hair loss. My 18 year old daughter has a beautiful head of hair and your recession isn't much more than her's. I'm so proud of her and grateful, she doesn't need to worry about hair. Photo below.

    35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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    Cole Hair Transplant
    1070 Powers Place
    Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
    Phone 678-566-1011
    email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
    The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
    Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
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    • redy
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 350

      #17
      My grandfather on my mothers side never has and will never loose more than like 10 hairs on his head.

      My dad is bald, but didn't really start loosing much of his until at least 30ish, his brothers have no hairloss pre-50ish.

      I'm losing slowly since like 18.

      The genetic stuff is not a good prediction at all..

      You could inherit great hair or horrible hair from ancestors you never knew existed.

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      • 35YrsAfter
        Doctor Representative
        • Aug 2012
        • 1418

        #18
        Originally posted by redy
        The genetic stuff is not a good prediction at all.
        More than 95% of hair miniaturizatiion in men is male pattern baldness.
        The incidence of pattern baldness varies according to race and is based on a person's genetic background. Environmental factors don't seem to have any huge affect on this type of baldness, although identical twin studies indicate smoking, sunburn, stress and alchoholism could make your situation slightly worse. Coffee is good for hair growth. One major-scale study in Maryborough, Victoria, Australia showed the prevalence of mid-frontal baldness increases with age and affects 73.5 percent of men and 57 percent of women 80 years and older. The incidence of baldness in males corresponds to chronological age as a rough rule of thumb. For example, according to Medem Medical Library's website, male pattern baldness affects about 40 million men in the US. Approx. 25% of men begin losing their hair by age 30; 2/3 begin balding by age 60.
        There is a 4 in 7 chance of receiving the MPB gene. Hair loss sometimes begins as early as the end of puberty, and is mostly genetically determined. It was once believed that baldness was inherited from the mother's father. While there is some foundation for this belief, both parents actually contribute to their offspring's likelihood of MPB. The trigger for MPB is dihydrotestosterone, a more-potent form of testosterone often referred to by its acronym DHT. Most forum visitors with hair loss already know that. The mechanism by which DHT accomplishes this is not yet fully understood. In genetically prone scalps DHT initiates a process of follicular miniaturization, in which the hair follicle begins to deteriorate. As a consequence, the hair’s growth phase (anagen) is shortened. Some researchers are claiming, that DHT causes a susceptible inherited (predetermined) area of follicles to be attacked by the body's own immune system. There may be truth to that because steroid creams such as hydrocortisone and Cordran SP for example have a listed side effect of excessive hair growth. Steroids can suppress the immune system. Dermatologists warn that prolonged use of topical steroids can cause skin thinning. For me in particular, I had a skin reaction to poison ivy last year around May. I have been using Cordran SP cream on my hands and noticed my hair looks fuller. I looked this steroid cream up and a listed side is "excessive hair growth". How awful!!!


        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
        forhair.com
        Cole Hair Transplant
        1070 Powers Place
        Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
        Phone 678-566-1011
        email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
        The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
        Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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        • redy
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 350

          #19
          Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
          More than 95% of hair miniaturizatiion in men is male pattern baldness.
          The incidence of pattern baldness varies according to race and is based on a person's genetic background. Environmental factors don't seem to have any huge affect on this type of baldness, although identical twin studies indicate smoking, sunburn, stress and alchoholism could make your situation slightly worse. Coffee is good for hair growth. One major-scale study in Maryborough, Victoria, Australia showed the prevalence of mid-frontal baldness increases with age and affects 73.5 percent of men and 57 percent of women 80 years and older. The incidence of baldness in males corresponds to chronological age as a rough rule of thumb. For example, according to Medem Medical Library's website, male pattern baldness affects about 40 million men in the US. Approx. 25% of men begin losing their hair by age 30; 2/3 begin balding by age 60.
          There is a 4 in 7 chance of receiving the MPB gene. Hair loss sometimes begins as early as the end of puberty, and is mostly genetically determined. It was once believed that baldness was inherited from the mother's father. While there is some foundation for this belief, both parents actually contribute to their offspring's likelihood of MPB. The trigger for MPB is dihydrotestosterone, a more-potent form of testosterone often referred to by its acronym DHT. Most forum visitors with hair loss already know that. The mechanism by which DHT accomplishes this is not yet fully understood. In genetically prone scalps DHT initiates a process of follicular miniaturization, in which the hair follicle begins to deteriorate. As a consequence, the hair’s growth phase (anagen) is shortened. Some researchers are claiming, that DHT causes a susceptible inherited (predetermined) area of follicles to be attacked by the body's own immune system. There may be truth to that because steroid creams such as hydrocortisone and Cordran SP for example have a listed side effect of excessive hair growth. Steroids can suppress the immune system. Dermatologists warn that prolonged use of topical steroids can cause skin thinning. For me in particular, I had a skin reaction to poison ivy last year around May. I have been using Cordran SP cream on my hands and noticed my hair looks fuller. I looked this steroid cream up and a listed side is "excessive hair growth". How awful!!!
          What I was trying to express was that looking at your immediate family for predicting your level of MPB is a very common and and very inaccurate way of predicting your timing/level of MPB. You could have genetics from ancestors so old they aren't known by your oldest living relatives!

          I also think that 25% is too low at this point. I think the current generation is loosing hair earlier for whatever reason.

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          • 35YrsAfter
            Doctor Representative
            • Aug 2012
            • 1418

            #20
            Originally posted by redy
            I also think that 25% is too low at this point. I think the current generation is loosing hair earlier for whatever reason.
            I think it could be environmental factors and possibly the fact that corporate lobby dollars have paved the way for all sorts of harmful additives/GMO/chemicals/hormones/antibiotics etc. to slip into our food supply. Several years ago, my wife led the way for my family eating healthy. Four former (relatively minor) health problems mysteriously disappeared! My hair didn't grow back, but it does look better than it once did.


            35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
            forhair.com
            Cole Hair Transplant
            1070 Powers Place
            Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
            Phone 678-566-1011
            email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
            The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
            Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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            • redy
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 350

              #21
              Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
              I think it could be environmental factors and possibly the fact that corporate lobby dollars have paved the way for all sorts of harmful additives/GMO/chemicals/hormones/antibiotics etc. to slip into our food supply.
              I honestly think that the hormones used to grow/produce/raise food may be causing MPB to occur earlier in young men than in previous generations.

              I also don't think that it is possible to 'reverse' that, and it's way too expensive to try to avoid this regardless.

              That's my theory though.

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              • 35YrsAfter
                Doctor Representative
                • Aug 2012
                • 1418

                #22
                Originally posted by redy
                I honestly think that the hormones used to grow/produce/raise food may be causing MPB to occur earlier in young men than in previous generations.
                I'm not aware of any conclusive studies linking meat "additives" to MPB, but some studies indicate a link to the early onset of puberty which could possibly cause a guy with the MPB gene to begin losing hair earlier in life than he otherwise would. Eating only organic foods and natural grass-fed beef can't hurt.

                One of many articles worth looking at:
                Here

                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                forhair.com
                Cole Hair Transplant
                1070 Powers Place
                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                Phone 678-566-1011
                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                • Dboxler
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 20

                  #23
                  Haha well for the record, I'll be 21 here in May and I can't even grow a full beard yet.. Haha late bloomer and people say all the time that I look 17 years old. Maybe that's a good sign.

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