PGD2 review by Garza

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  • Jcm800
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2614

    #16
    You mean me? I wasn't even talking about experimentals. Granted I hijacked the thread. But I was clearly referring to fin sides. Sorry for the confusion.

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    • DesperateOne
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 289

      #17
      So anything good came out of this thread?

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      • burtandernie
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 1563

        #18
        I mean the information in the article is the good to come from it. Well I mean what out there now inhibits GPR44 receptor? Otherwise you need to increase pge2 and pgf2a and lower pgd2 to balance each other out because just lowering pgd2 like they say might not do anything since these Prostaglandins offset each other.
        Given they list 9 areas for further research I think its going to be a while before anything can be figured of all this.

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        • BoSox
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 697

          #19
          It's been about two years.. clearly this baldness cure is not "on shelves" but can they at least let us know if this effectively regrows "all" the hair, not just prevents baldness? Can we at least get this answer? Would love to reverse my thinning hair :/

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            #20
            Originally posted by BoSox
            It's been about two years.. clearly this baldness cure is not "on shelves" but can they at least let us know if this effectively regrows "all" the hair, not just prevents baldness? Can we at least get this answer? Would love to reverse my thinning hair :/
            You might have some luck if you FORCE it out of them. These guys are never transparent.

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            • burtandernie
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1563

              #21
              I would like to see all the news sources issue some kind of correction or retraction to what amounts to lying or misquoting the cure in 2 years many sources reported. Clearly we might be past that deadline already and its obvious that was false. Good to know journalistic integrity is a thing of the past

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #22
                Originally posted by burtandernie
                I would like to see all the news sources issue some kind of correction or retraction to what amounts to lying or misquoting the cure in 2 years many sources reported. Clearly we might be past that deadline already and its obvious that was false. Good to know journalistic integrity is a thing of the past
                You'll never see any of these attention-whores like Cotsarelis retract their claims. None of them made any promises or guarantees... they just filled everyones head with a lot of false hope. It's not illegal what they did... but incredibly immoral when they KNEW there wasnt going to be jack shit on the market 'within 2 years'

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                • Aeroes
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 159

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  You'll never see any of these attention-whores like Cotsarelis retract their claims. None of them made any promises or guarantees... they just filled everyones head with a lot of false hope. It's not illegal what they did... but incredibly immoral when they KNEW there wasnt going to be jack shit on the market 'within 2 years'
                  I'm sure the FDA will think of a reason to Boycott it.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Aeroes
                    I'm sure the FDA will think of a reason to Boycott it.
                    You mean needlessly prolong the trials.

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                    • inbrugge
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 244

                      #25
                      this is one of the frontiers I'm most hopeful about. It's pretty difficult to find relevant information though.

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                      • BoSox
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 697

                        #26
                        Originally posted by inbrugge
                        this is one of the frontiers I'm most hopeful about. It's pretty difficult to find relevant information though.
                        I cannot agree more, and I for one is very excited for this. It isn't false hope, they have the real deal here.. within 2years was obviously not accurate, but I do believe it will make its way to the market soon. Very excited.

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                        • Sogeking
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 494

                          #27
                          Originally posted by locke999
                          Basically, what I got from the article is that there are 3 ways to help prevent hair loss, which is to either inhibit:

                          1.) prostaglandin D2 synthase (the enzyme that makes pgD2
                          2.) GPR44 receptor of pgD2
                          3.) PTGDR

                          So basically, we are definitely messing with hormones which means that it can potentially lead to side effects.

                          Which also means this has to go through FDA and it will take years and years for them to get a medication out. That is if they started clinical trials today but they don't even have a drug to do these things thus far. I don't know, if Tsuji Lab can come out with something within 12 years, this research is unmeaningful.
                          Originally posted by BoSox
                          I cannot agree more, and I for one is very excited for this. It isn't false hope, they have the real deal here.. within 2years was obviously not accurate, but I do believe it will make its way to the market soon. Very excited.
                          Well locke said it well. We'll sooner get something from Tsuji, Dr. Xu or Jahodas team then from Follica and company.

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                          • burtandernie
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1563

                            #28
                            I agree PGD2 has a lot of potential but we need it sooner rather then later. How about a treatment that just stops MPB from getting worse? Not even regrowing hair just keeping it yet there is nothing yet that even does that yet alone regrow anything.
                            Im not a big fan on the idea of propecia long term because long term I still think its a losing battle and on top of that your then putting your health at risk too. Not worth it. Maybe PGD2 can lead to a safer treatment. Maybe even a topical that ends up working?

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                            • Sogeking
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 494

                              #29
                              Originally posted by burtandernie
                              I agree PGD2 has a lot of potential but we need it sooner rather then later. How about a treatment that just stops MPB from getting worse? Not even regrowing hair just keeping it yet there is nothing yet that even does that yet alone regrow anything.
                              Im not a big fan on the idea of propecia long term because long term I still think its a losing battle and on top of that your then putting your health at risk too. Not worth it. Maybe PGD2 can lead to a safer treatment. Maybe even a topical that ends up working?
                              Thats why many of us are hoping for CB. If CB can at least stop hair loss than suddenly HTs enter the equation as well. I truly hope CB will be effective.

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