First Study to Convert Adult Human Cells to Hair-Follicle-Generating Stem Cells
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Not to knock on Spencer or anything, but if it is not about hair transplants or Finasteride he is not interviewing them. That last episode with Andrew Zairain was so boring. Where is Joe from STaten Island? He is the best part of the show in my opinion.Comment
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Even if they nailed the DP cells, its gene therapy, so it'd need a 15 year long clinical trial and an added 5 years of product development before it even reached market.
We're 30-50 years away from a better treatment folks, time to accept baldness and move on unless you want to chemically castrate yourself, which, in all honesty, isnt for me, as I've been there & would never want to go down that road again.
I seriously laughed for a good 3 minutes out loud to myself when I read "We're 30-50 years away." That's the most moronic, nonsensical statement I've read in years. Christ the negativity on here is so comical.
Arashi, we are close. Oh so close! Keep up the positive/realistic dialogue and not this negative nonsense.Comment
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To be fair, some of us will die before a product gets release and so many have waited so long, being robbed of their identity and then ultimately their life as well. Pretty terrible way to go out... living a gimped life and have your head filled with bullshit promises by all these pseudodoctors. A lot of these people have every right to be pissed.Comment
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So, why are you even here ? If you don't care about a cure being found, then why even visit these forums ?
A lot of other people actually DO care about that. I for one will pop the champagne if they succeed at that last part of the quest. Sure, it will take 8-10 years before it's available in the Western world, the day after a cure is found. But I'm sure it will go faster in Japan, with their fast track. Also, for the real daredevils who don't want to wait for clinical tests, there surely will be even other options, once research is published on how to do this, that's a sure thing too.
Perhaps our disagreement in this is a matter of semantics. "Almost there" can mean different things depending on who's saying it and who's hearing it. As someone with an undergrad in biology and masters in pharmacology with more than a decade working in pharmaceutical reserach, i can assure you that any project that is still in the basic research phase is more than a decade away. In most cases, significantly longer than that. For me, that is not "almost there".
For starters i know how difficult getting through clinical trials can be. Even for a tried and true, fully efficacious treatment, there can be many delays and hurdles to overcome. And most that do attempt to come to market fail. There are simply no guarantees in the process.
Secondly, i consider "almost there" to be the point when i'm close to getting hair put on my head. Meaning, i'm within 3-5 years of walking into a clinic and getting a treatment and walking away with a giant bouffant of hair, or even just a jump in a couple NW leves would be good. That to me is "almost there". Anything else is merely of academic interest. Which is all fine and good.
Someone creating a fully functional hair follicle in the lab is an astounding feat and certainly worth celebrating. But, from a practical stand point, for the baldies, it's still not going to impact their lives for a very long time.
It's not pessimistic to understand the process and have a realistic appreciation of what the time and efforts involved, from both the scientific and business angles, will be.Comment
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If you guys want to blame anyone for Histogen's slow progress, blame SkinMedica. Histogen would probably be funded through all clinical phases and maybe even have something on the market right now if it wasn't for their lawsuit, which caused Histogen's initial angel funding to fall through, caused them to lay off all their employees in 2009, and was just dismissed last year.
I understand everyone is desperate for a treatment, but come on lets be realistic. Around August last year Gail Naughton said that because of the lawsuit the company was basically in the same position as it was in 2009, that's more than 4 years of delays. To expect that they could almost immediately be ready to go after the lawsuit was settled is naive as shit. They couldn't get investors while there was still patent disputes in litigation, now they're trying to raise like $30 million, yeah I'm sure that's going to happen overnight.Comment
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I seriously laughed for a good 3 minutes out loud to myself when I read "We're 30-50 years away." That's the most moronic, nonsensical statement I've read in years. Christ the negativity on here is so comical.
Arashi, we are close. Oh so close! Keep up the positive/realistic dialogue and not this negative nonsense.
Come back to me when you can name me 3 different cell types of a human hair follicle, if you think scientists are capable of growing hair follicles and selling the service to the public is just around the corner, the only nonsensical moron around here is you. If your only issue with my posts is their inherent "lack of enthusiasm for the absolute void of progress in current hair loss research" then get used to it, I'm not an idiot, I understand that even if we all danced around together singing chants of positivity it wouldnt bring us any closer to kind of science we need to actually cure hair loss.
All together now!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta5HnYtWBIsComment
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No, the most moronic and nonsensical statement you would have ever read is your birth certificate.
Come back to me when you can name me 3 different cell types of a human hair follicle, if you think scientists are capable of growing hair follicles and selling the service to the public is just around the corner, the only nonsensical moron around here is you. If your only issue with my posts is their inherent "lack of enthusiasm for the absolute void of progress in current hair loss research" then get used to it, I'm not an idiot, I understand that even if we all danced around together singing chants of positivity it wouldnt bring us any closer to kind of science we need to actually cure hair loss.
All together now!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta5HnYtWBIsComment
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The most ridiculous 4 words humans ever invented are "optimism/positivity and pessimism/negativity". We (humans) consider ourselves "intelligent" yet we believe being "optimistic" or "pessimistic" can actually change the course of things in our lives !!! I'm sure 30 years ago -when they originally started telling people we'd have a baldness cure some time in the next 5-10 years- those "optimistic" people thought the cure really was around the corner. I wonder if they're still believe in "optimism". I laugh at those who believe in such superstitious shit like "optimism and pessimism" because to me they certainly suffer from delusion but they don't realize it. Life doesn't go by what we wish and hope for. Things that we hate WILL ALWAYS happen to us whether we're "optimistic" or not. I don't know why it's so hard for people to realize this.
On the other hand, being pessimistic means you'll likely feel miserable comparatively, but perhaps this will lead you to take preventative action, or to adjust things in your mind and accept the situation.
But it's not mystical, it's just basic psychology.Comment
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