20y/o Fin 0.5mg EOD... The Simple Journey :-P

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  • jde1993
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 5

    20y/o Fin 0.5mg EOD... The Simple Journey :-P

    Hi everyone!

    I guess I'll start a quick introduction and share my story with you all. I'm 20 years old at the time of writing this, and on both sides of my family I have baldness, at an early age, in a diffuse pattern and at a fairly aggressive rate.

    My grandfather on my mother's side lost pretty much all of his hair by the time he was 18, along with my uncles on that side too. Dad is a NW6. I pretty much told myself that it was only a matter of time. I spent a long time reading up on forums, watching videos, hearing people's opinions, just deciding what I'd do. I knew from reading up that the earlier you catch it and start the better.

    So away I went, looking for any sign of balding. Anything. Then it happened, I started thinning around the top, and I could tell because I was waiting for it, I could feel patches of scalp that I couldn't feel prior, I started to recede a little on the temples... It was fading slowly.

    So I did what most people would do in the situation I was in, attempt to treat it! I got a prescription from my doctor for Minoxidil, which didn't do much for me. A bit ticked off, a few months later I gave Finasteride a try. The legit stuff, quite expensive might I add. Cut the tablets into quarters with a pill cutter, and off I went. 0.25mg EOD to begin with.

    I experienced terrible aches and pains at first, but they subsided after the first week. I got all of the minor sides you could get from Fin, it was like a mixed bag. But now, 5 months after I took my first fin tablet, I'm here having 0.5mg EOD, and I am experiencing no noticeable side effects in *any* department.

    The only side effect I seem to be experiencing is hair growth! It's been a crazy ride but I think I'm slowly getting better. It's even worked on my temples which I was not expecting at all! At this point in time, after a brief shed 2 months ago, my hair feels and looks much thicker even when it's short, and my crown has filled in. Even my hairdresser is commenting on it and wants to give it a go!

    Anyways, here's a picture of my progress so far. Before being on the left, After on the right.

    Maybe I'm just imagining it, but I'm sure it's got better. The pictures on the left are from March 2013. On the right (after) were taken just before writing this post. (January 2014)

    Best of luck guys with your regimens. You'll get there! I'll happily answer any questions or try to provide better pictures. I'm sorry about some of them being bad in advance, I never really planned to publicly document any of this. I'd just like to let people know that if you research it and stick with a regimen, you could just find the results you're after!

    <3

  • win200
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 420

    #2
    The pictures aren't great, and I can't tell if you look better after. But I really don't see any loss, and I think your crown just has a cowlick. With such extensive loss on both sides of the family, though, it'd be a miracle if you didn't experience some level of noticeable loss by 30 (or earlier). So you're doing the right thing--treat early. If you're having success with fin, try slowly tapering onto the full 1.25mg per day. I spent two months doing a taper on and have had no side effects. Think about adding Rogaine to the mix. Nature will probably catch up at some point over the long term, but you should be able to really mitigate the effects of MPB for at least the next decade or so (probably longer).

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    • yeahyeahyeah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1776

      #3
      Originally posted by jde1993
      Hi everyone!

      I guess I'll start a quick introduction and share my story with you all. I'm 20 years old at the time of writing this, and on both sides of my family I have baldness, at an early age, in a diffuse pattern and at a fairly aggressive rate.

      My grandfather on my mother's side lost pretty much all of his hair by the time he was 18, along with my uncles on that side too. Dad is a NW6. I pretty much told myself that it was only a matter of time. I spent a long time reading up on forums, watching videos, hearing people's opinions, just deciding what I'd do. I knew from reading up that the earlier you catch it and start the better.

      So away I went, looking for any sign of balding. Anything. Then it happened, I started thinning around the top, and I could tell because I was waiting for it, I could feel patches of scalp that I couldn't feel prior, I started to recede a little on the temples... It was fading slowly.

      So I did what most people would do in the situation I was in, attempt to treat it! I got a prescription from my doctor for Minoxidil, which didn't do much for me. A bit ticked off, a few months later I gave Finasteride a try. The legit stuff, quite expensive might I add. Cut the tablets into quarters with a pill cutter, and off I went. 0.25mg EOD to begin with.

      I experienced terrible aches and pains at first, but they subsided after the first week. I got all of the minor sides you could get from Fin, it was like a mixed bag. But now, 5 months after I took my first fin tablet, I'm here having 0.5mg EOD, and I am experiencing no noticeable side effects in *any* department.

      The only side effect I seem to be experiencing is hair growth! It's been a crazy ride but I think I'm slowly getting better. It's even worked on my temples which I was not expecting at all! At this point in time, after a brief shed 2 months ago, my hair feels and looks much thicker even when it's short, and my crown has filled in. Even my hairdresser is commenting on it and wants to give it a go!

      Anyways, here's a picture of my progress so far. Before being on the left, After on the right.

      Maybe I'm just imagining it, but I'm sure it's got better. The pictures on the left are from March 2013. On the right (after) were taken just before writing this post. (January 2014)

      Best of luck guys with your regimens. You'll get there! I'll happily answer any questions or try to provide better pictures. I'm sorry about some of them being bad in advance, I never really planned to publicly document any of this. I'd just like to let people know that if you research it and stick with a regimen, you could just find the results you're after!

      <3

      http://i.imgur.com/YDdJXnP.jpg
      Your temples look like they have worsened, you can see a V shape forming.

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      • win200
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 420

        #4
        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
        Your temples look like they have worsened, you can see a V shape forming.
        I think that might just be the styling. His hair is longer in the first picture and puffing down over his hairline a bit. Also, he's shaved his sideburns differently in the second pic, which changes the appearance of his temple peaks. I really don't think there's a noticeable difference. No reason to change the regimen, but you're in good shape at this point.

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          #5
          Originally posted by win200
          I think that might just be the styling. His hair is longer in the first picture and puffing down over his hairline a bit. Also, he's shaved his sideburns differently in the second pic, which changes the appearance of his temple peaks. I really don't think there's a noticeable difference. No reason to change the regimen, but you're in good shape at this point.
          Top right - look closely his corners have receeded.

          You can even see the velius hairs.

          That is how my hairloss happened.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            #6
            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
            Top right - look closely his corners have receeded.

            That is how my hairloss happened.
            Either way OP I wouldn't worry, by the time you are my age - 28. There will be better solutions out there.

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            • win200
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 420

              #7
              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
              Either way OP I wouldn't worry, by the time you are my age - 28. There will be better solutions out there.
              Still not sure I see it, but you're right--time is on your side. Lots of interesting stuff is on the horizon, and you're young with a great head of hair. Just do what you can to maintain it; once it's gone, it's much, much harder to bring back. Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, as the saying goes.

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              • 35YrsAfter
                Doctor Representative
                • Aug 2012
                • 1418

                #8
                Originally posted by jde1993
                Hi everyone!

                I guess I'll start a quick introduction and share my story with you all. I'm 20 years old at the time of writing this, and on both sides of my family I have baldness, at an early age, in a diffuse pattern and at a fairly aggressive rate.

                My grandfather on my mother's side lost pretty much all of his hair by the time he was 18, along with my uncles on that side too. Dad is a NW6. I pretty much told myself that it was only a matter of time. I spent a long time reading up on forums, watching videos, hearing people's opinions, just deciding what I'd do. I knew from reading up that the earlier you catch it and start the better.

                So away I went, looking for any sign of balding. Anything. Then it happened, I started thinning around the top, and I could tell because I was waiting for it, I could feel patches of scalp that I couldn't feel prior, I started to recede a little on the temples... It was fading slowly.

                So I did what most people would do in the situation I was in, attempt to treat it! I got a prescription from my doctor for Minoxidil, which didn't do much for me. A bit ticked off, a few months later I gave Finasteride a try. The legit stuff, quite expensive might I add. Cut the tablets into quarters with a pill cutter, and off I went. 0.25mg EOD to begin with.

                I experienced terrible aches and pains at first, but they subsided after the first week. I got all of the minor sides you could get from Fin, it was like a mixed bag. But now, 5 months after I took my first fin tablet, I'm here having 0.5mg EOD, and I am experiencing no noticeable side effects in *any* department.

                The only side effect I seem to be experiencing is hair growth! It's been a crazy ride but I think I'm slowly getting better. It's even worked on my temples which I was not expecting at all! At this point in time, after a brief shed 2 months ago, my hair feels and looks much thicker even when it's short, and my crown has filled in. Even my hairdresser is commenting on it and wants to give it a go!

                Anyways, here's a picture of my progress so far. Before being on the left, After on the right.

                Maybe I'm just imagining it, but I'm sure it's got better. The pictures on the left are from March 2013. On the right (after) were taken just before writing this post. (January 2014)

                Best of luck guys with your regimens. You'll get there! I'll happily answer any questions or try to provide better pictures. I'm sorry about some of them being bad in advance, I never really planned to publicly document any of this. I'd just like to let people know that if you research it and stick with a regimen, you could just find the results you're after!

                <3

                http://i.imgur.com/YDdJXnP.jpg
                Evaluating the effectiveness of hair loss treatments with your own eyes is difficult. There is a hair loss evaluation device and system called HairCheck. HairCheck basically compares the "hair mass" of the donor area which is usually permanent to that of the areas where hair loss commonly occurs. Those numbers are kept on file, so when you take Propecia for let's say, 3 years, you can return and compare the numbers. A slight improvement that gradually takes place over several years can be measured using the HairCheck system, where an individual's visual assessment is often inconclusive. We offer a free HairCheck. If you're in the Atlanta area, call our patient coordinator to make an appointment. Also Dr. Cole mentioned to me that even though Avodart is a more powerful hair loss medication, you can take smaller amounts and sometimes avoid side effects. Same goes for Propecia, if you're taking Avodart. In other words, a man may have sides with one and not with the other.

                BTW... I got hit with hair loss from both sides of my family as well. You're in a lot better shape in 2014 than I was when I was 20. There was nothing but snake oil for hair loss when I was 20 and shaving was considered odd.

                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                forhair.com
                Cole Hair Transplant
                1070 Powers Place
                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                Phone 678-566-1011
                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 01-15-2014, 11:34 AM.

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                • win200
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 420

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                  Evaluating the effectiveness of hair loss treatments with your own eyes is difficult. There is a hair loss evaluation device and system called HairCheck. HairCheck basically compares the "hair mass" of the donor area which is usually permanent to that of the areas where hair loss commonly occurs. Those numbers are kept on file, so when you take Propecia for let's say, 3 years, you can return and compare the numbers. A slight improvement that gradually takes place over several years can be measured using the HairCheck system, where an individual's visual assessment is often inconclusive. We offer a free HairCheck. If you're in the Atlanta area, call our patient coordinator to make an appointment. Also Dr. Cole mentioned to me that even though Avodart is a more powerful hair loss medication, you can take smaller amounts and sometimes avoid side effects. Same goes for Propecia, if you're taking Avodart. In other words, a man may have sides with one and not with the other.

                  BTW... I got hit with hair loss from both sides of my family as well. You're in a lot better shape in 2014 than I was when I was 20. There was nothing but snake oil for hair loss when I was 20 and shaving was considered odd.

                  35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                  forhair.com
                  Cole Hair Transplant
                  1070 Powers Place
                  Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                  Phone 678-566-1011
                  email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                  The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                  Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                  Hair Check is a great option if someone in town has it. But doesn't your hair have to be roughly 3" long for it to work?

                  Take a look at Avodart, too. It's another systemic DHT inhibitor, but much more potent than finasteride (but that means higher potential for side effects). Unlike finasteride, it's not approved for hair loss, but many docs will prescribe it for that anyway. I've been on it for a month and haven't had any problems, and there are plenty of guys who have been poor or mediocre finasteride responders who had much better results with Avodart (active drug is dutasteride). My feeling is that I'd just prefer to hold onto as much hair as I possibly can now by using the most potent drug, but that's a highly individualized stance. Dutasteride's functionality is much different than finasteride's because it inhibits 5-alpha reductase types I and II, whereas finasteride only blocks type II. Neurologically, this is a whole different ballgame with more unknown factors with long-term use. But something to consider.

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                  • Dan26
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1270

                    #10
                    Originally posted by win200
                    Hair Check is a great option if someone in town has it. But doesn't your hair have to be roughly 3" long for it to work?

                    Take a look at Avodart, too. It's another systemic DHT inhibitor, but much more potent than finasteride (but that means higher potential for side effects). Unlike finasteride, it's not approved for hair loss, but many docs will prescribe it for that anyway. I've been on it for a month and haven't had any problems, and there are plenty of guys who have been poor or mediocre finasteride responders who had much better results with Avodart (active drug is dutasteride). My feeling is that I'd just prefer to hold onto as much hair as I possibly can now by using the most potent drug, but that's a highly individualized stance. Dutasteride's functionality is much different than finasteride's because it inhibits 5-alpha reductase types I and II, whereas finasteride only blocks type II. Neurologically, this is a whole different ballgame with more unknown factors with long-term use. But something to consider.
                    Take less dut you can inhibit less 5ar1 and the same or more 5ar2 as fin does. Also if your genotype makes you a better responder to dut this could be wise.

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                    • jde1993
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 5

                      #11
                      Hey guys,

                      Thanks for all of your replies! One of the first things I thought about was the fact that a lot of the photos I took were terrible. I know the mind plays tricks on you sometimes, but I've been using a specific sorta birth mark which is near my hairline to measure the extend of my temple recession and I can't even see it anymore.

                      I've definitely improved. I wish I had better pictures of it, but everyone's commented on it. The top especially has been a huge improvement. While photos in my room make it look like nothing's going on, outside you can really see it.

                      I'm starting now to take pictures of it properly, in lighting that stays the same with a decent camera, and I'll keep you guys posted.

                      Thanks for your advice too, for now I really just wanna stick to Fin. I don't wanna be packing on new things into the regimen, because at least in my mind, this is working for me. That wasn't the first time I've cut my sideburns into a V shape like that, either, I've been doing it for years, if I had a photo of them once upon a time you'd see a difference. :-P

                      I'll keep pushing on with what I've got, it's only been 4 months anyway. I just don't feel like I need more than 0.5 EOD at the present time. My shedding has turned to pretty much nothing which I'm so happy about, and I feel good, I'm more confident, and to me, that's all that matters

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                      • jetfly
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 10

                        #12
                        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                        Your temples look like they have worsened, you can see a V shape forming.
                        No, his temple points have regrown

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                        • jde1993
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 5

                          #13


                          I don't know if that provides any further proof (if there are any results), I think it definitely has improved to some extent. If I had my hair spiked like that you'd definitely see right through my hair in the sun. I've noticed it's a lot less wispy in the wind as well.

                          Maybe I'm imagining it. The picture on the left is from April 2013, while the one on the right is from a few days ago.

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                          • redy
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 350

                            #14
                            you definitely have improvement.

                            No, you don't have perfect hair - but especially after that last one it is easy to see your hair is much healthier overall, especially in the center of your head. The crown is thicker looking too. Your hair overall looks sharper. Awesome!

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                            • jde1993
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Originally posted by redy
                              you definitely have improvement.

                              No, you don't have perfect hair - but especially after that last one it is easy to see your hair is much healthier overall, especially in the center of your head. The crown is thicker looking too. Your hair overall looks sharper. Awesome!
                              Thanks Redy appreciate the encouragement. It's been 4 months as of today on Fin; while I'm happy with the results right now, I hope I see more of the same in the coming months. You guys think 0.5 EOD is too little?

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