+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 42
  1. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    465

    Default

    So now people are admitting they don't see any results?
    What about the other results people bragged about just a month ago?

    What a joke, at least the cycle for this fad is coming to an end
    I still want to know the truth behind the study, some people claimed the researchers had a clinic where they were offering the procedure

  2. #12
    Senior Member Pentarou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Britain, Great
    Posts
    484

    Default

    It creates vellus hairs and stunted stubby pigmented hairs, but not full terminal hairs. Trouble is we need to buzz someone's head, before and after, to judge results, but stunted non-terminal hairs look the same as terminal hairs when grade 1 length.

    *** is the only forum with active threads at the moment, but you're not allowed to say 'this doesn't work quite so well' or you get attacked viciously within 15 seconds. Also, there they seem into the whole macho bloodshed thing, with photos, and are completely non objective.

  3. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    428

    Default

    If it is creating vellus hairs, doesn't it stand to reason that it may help maintain what you have? Maintenance alone is worthwhile, even with no regrowth.

  4. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    4,423

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pentarou View Post
    *** is the only forum with active threads at the moment, but you're not allowed to say 'this doesn't work quite so well' or you get attacked viciously within 15 seconds. Also, there they seem into the whole macho bloodshed thing, with photos, and are completely non objective.
    The mods at *** need to take serious action on Squeegee's ridiculous behaviour. His contributions on proactive can stay, but his humiliation of members needs to be taken out.

  5. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    4,423

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryan555 View Post
    If it is creating vellus hairs, doesn't it stand to reason that it may help maintain what you have? Maintenance alone is worthwhile, even with no regrowth.
    Agreed.

    Save the hair we do have now with less grafts needed for any HT with regen needed or better results with other treatments. However, being 2014 the treatments we do have are absolutely disgusting... full out cure should have been a reality a long time ago.

  6. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    171

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryan555 View Post
    If it is creating vellus hairs, doesn't it stand to reason that it may help maintain what you have? Maintenance alone is worthwhile, even with no regrowth.
    And despite the poor quality of my results, this is exactly the reason I plan to continue on the dermaroller. It has given me a ton of vellus hair. Well not really, that is, mine are not vellus hair. This are more than mere vellus hair, this are black hairs (but very small anyway nad they are not getting any longer).

    But I want to see if this can help me maintain what I still got.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellouser View Post
    Get off of the Ketoconazole, reduce it to 2-3 times a week and wait at least a day (preferably two) before using it.
    Yeah, a lot of guys have told me to take it easy on the keto... but I don't understand why... is there a problem using it so often?. It really helps me with the oil.

    It does leave my hair looking like shit though....

  7. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    4,423

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chimera View Post
    Yeah, a lot of guys have told me to take it easy on the keto... but I don't understand why... is there a problem using it so often?. It really helps me with the oil.

    It does leave my hair looking like shit though....
    I dont remember the exact arguement for it, I think Squeegee on *** would know better, but Keto basically negates the initial 2-3 days of post dermarolling. You could ask him there, but dont come off as a noob because you'll get blasted with elementary grade insults.

  8. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    306

    Default

    Why are you guys doing this, aka. butchering your scalp with needles on a weekly basis when it's not even a proven and approved method for preventing hair loss and regrowing hair? Also, isn't it rather dangerous to be doing this when it come to risk of infection? If I recall, aren't dermarollers meant for bad skin problems and as a temporary (and not permanent) solution to that problem?

    And lastly, isn't it possible that the regrowth displayed in that original study was simply a patient who responded very well to minoxidil and that it had nothing to do with dermarolling?

  9. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    4,423

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav7 View Post
    Why are you guys doing this, aka. butchering your scalp with needles on a weekly basis when it's not even a proven and approved method for preventing hair loss and regrowing hair? Also, isn't it rather dangerous to be doing this when it come to risk of infection? If I recall, aren't dermarollers meant for bad skin problems and as a temporary (and not permanent) solution to that problem?

    And lastly, isn't it possible that the regrowth displayed in that original study was simply a patient who responded very well to minoxidil and that it had nothing to do with dermarolling?
    Because it hasn't been disproved either.

  10. #20
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    26

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hellouser View Post
    Agreed.

    Save the hair we do have now with less grafts needed for any HT with regen needed or better results with other treatments. However, being 2014 the treatments we do have are absolutely disgusting... full out cure should have been a reality a long time ago.
    As much as I'd love to see one as soon as possible, a "full out cure" would be hard to achieve. It would have to involve taking a drug, injections, etc that selectively inhibit an enzyme in our "hair cells" and NOT effect the processes of other, nearby surrounding cells in the body. If the drug was to be taken orally, it would inhibit the enzyme all over the body and that would potentially be fatal if the protein product is needed for other pathways.

    If researchers are able to selectively choose cells which the drugs can only interact with, we would have the "cure" for not only hair loss, but for cancer as well.

    The "cures" for many diseases that we do have generally involve viruses and bacteria which can be targeted with antibiotics and other medication because they involve cells not similar to our own (i.e. our cells do not contain a cell wall, so the cell wall is often used as a target of anti-biotics with assurance that it won't effect human cells).

    The only real hope I see is if they develop a method to clone or multiply hair cells from the "safe zone", some how grow them in vitro and successfuly implant them in thinning regions - that or donor regeneration. The current drugs aimed at "regrowth" ultimately will fail over time because they aren't targeting the root of the problem (potential inhibition of an enzyme product, etc).

Similar Threads

  1. Dermarolling Mindmap WIP
    By brunobald in forum Cutting Edge / Future Treatments
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-31-2013, 10:32 PM
  2. Balding is making me fail tests...
    By justwantmyhair in forum Introduce Yourself & Share Your Story
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-05-2013, 07:21 PM
  3. Hair Fail between 10-30 days after procedure
    By Bigman in forum Hair Transplant: Start Your Own Topic
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-21-2013, 12:40 PM
  4. Replicel - FAIL
    By Kiwi in forum Cutting Edge / Future Treatments
    Replies: 51
    Last Post: 05-05-2012, 06:31 PM
  5. Trying to understand the hair transplant protocol. Can U lend insight?
    By JonB. in forum Hair Transplant: Start Your Own Topic
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-16-2010, 09:31 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

» IAHRS

hair transplant surgeons

» The Bald Truth

» Recent Threads

1800 graft repair case results by Dr. Lindsey
Yesterday 08:38 AM
Last Post By Dr. Lindsey
Yesterday 08:38 AM
Navigating the German Job Market as a Kenyan Citizen
11-04-2023 06:31 AM
Last Post By Keegan212
Yesterday 03:51 AM
DR HAKAN DOGANAY/ 4500 GRAFTS / Implanter Pen+FUE
03-26-2024 04:15 PM
Last Post By Hakan Doganay, MD
03-26-2024 04:15 PM
The Mane Event for Thursday, June 15th, 2023
06-15-2023 02:59 PM
Last Post By gisecit34
03-26-2024 08:05 AM