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  • Kiwi
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1105

    Historgen/HSC - stop spazzing out

    I couldnt bear going through the existing retarded thread full of Histogen speculation.

    All we know is that:

    1) a company didnt invest in them (so what / who cares)
    2) that there product works (important)
    3) i remember reading somewhere, maybe in there last presentation that they were planning to experiment with dosing levels (which i take to mean they want to make their product better or stronger)

    So keep calm my balding brothers
  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1818

    #2
    Originally posted by Kiwi
    I couldnt bear going through the existing retarded thread full of Histogen speculation.

    All we know is that:

    1) a company didnt invest in them (so what / who cares)
    2) that there product works (important)
    3) i remember reading somewhere, maybe in there last presentation that they were planning to experiment with dosing levels (which i take to mean they want to make their product better or stronger)

    So keep calm my balding brothers
    if histogen ****s up, I will be so ****ing depressed.

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4423

      #3
      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
      if histogen ****s up, I will be so ****ing depressed.
      You mean unlike others, your not already depressed?

      I've been for a while. I wish I were so lucky.

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      • Kiwi
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1105

        #4
        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
        if histogen ****s up, I will be so ****ing depressed.
        Same here brother.

        If Winston was a decent moderator or had more support he'd stop deleting community Gho posts and chats and delete all the misinformation on these forums to make them better...

        Its a mine field.

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1818

          #5
          Originally posted by hellouser
          You mean unlike others, your not already depressed?

          I've been for a while. I wish I were so lucky.
          I am already depressed due to hairloss, but histogen is giving me hope and a reason to be optimistic.

          I really really dont want to take finasteride.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1818

            #6
            Originally posted by Kiwi
            Same here brother.

            If Winston was a decent moderator or had more support he'd stop deleting community Gho posts and chats and delete all the misinformation on these forums to make them better...

            Its a mine field.
            I hate the men who dont have to worry about hairloss, one less thing to worry about

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4423

              #7
              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
              I hate the men who dont have to worry about hairloss, one less thing to worry about
              Women exist too though. They're just as guilty, if not more than men for making us feel so miserable by demonizing baldness and make us out to be revolting in their eyes. Men dont do that.

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1818

                #8
                Originally posted by hellouser
                Women exist too though. They're just as guilty, if not more than men for making us feel so miserable by demonizing baldness and make us out to be revolting in their eyes. Men dont do that.
                Exactly.

                That is my greatest fear.

                I think if I didn't have hairloss, I would probably be so ultra confident right now - playing the field. I have a lot going for me.

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                • HairBane
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 300

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kiwi
                  I couldnt bear going through the existing retarded thread full of Histogen speculation.

                  All we know is that:

                  1) a company didnt invest in them (so what / who cares)
                  2) that there product works (important)
                  3) i remember reading somewhere, maybe in there last presentation that they were planning to experiment with dosing levels (which i take to mean they want to make their product better or stronger)

                  So keep calm my balding brothers
                  1) The company wasn't investing, it was merging with them so they could become a public company and get public investment, as I understand it. But I'm sure they have other ways of getting funded, they must do. I think it's possible that this was Histogen attempting to do what we've been begging these companies to do for years - just do whatever it takes and get the treatment to market! They probably figured that rather than go through months of gathering funding from private investors, this would skip all of that and get them straight through phase 2b with no bullshit.

                  2) It does work pretty well, 20% average regrowth and up to 60+% I believe. Regrew a woman a full head of hair apparently. I think HSC + anti-androgens could work really well from what I've seen.

                  3) That would be a phase 2b dosing trial, which they needs millions of dollars to do.

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1818

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HairBane
                    1) The company wasn't investing, it was merging with them so they could become a public company and get public investment, as I understand it. But I'm sure they have other ways of getting funded, they must do. I think it's possible that this was Histogen attempting to do what we've been begging these companies to do for years - just do whatever it takes and get the treatment to market! They probably figured that rather than go through months of gathering funding from private investors, this would skip all of that and get them straight through phase 2b with no bullshit.

                    2) It does work pretty well, 20% average regrowth and up to 60+% I believe. Regrew a woman a full head of hair apparently. I think HSC + anti-androgens could work really well from what I've seen.

                    3) That would be a phase 2b dosing trial, which they needs millions of dollars to do.
                    Can someone email them?

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HairBane
                      1) The company wasn't investing, it was merging with them so they could become a public company and get public investment, as I understand it..
                      Exactly. The shell they reversed into was empty. No money in it. It was purely a means to get access to the capital markets. Which I still think is the best way for them to go. Hopefully they still pursue it.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HairBane
                        3) That would be a phase 2b dosing trial, which they needs millions of dollars to do.
                        Reminds me of Canada.

                        You've got opportunities to make money, but you're completely SCREWED with all the fees for all the bylaws and bureaucratic crap you need to pay for before even starting out. Nevermind the taxes that come afterwards either.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          #13
                          The more I think about it, I think it was Histogen who cancelled the deal. There's no reason the seller of that empty shell would cancel the deal. There was no money in the shell (which I verified with the public numbers). But obviously reverse merging into an empty shell brings risks to the table (there might be hidden debts or other contractual obligations for example). So it makes much more sense that Histogen found something they didnt like about the shell and cancelled the reverse merger into it than that the seller of the shell cancelled the deal.

                          So I really think people shouldn't read too much into it. It's not like they lost an investor.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4423

                            #14
                            So what do we do now?

                            Do we try and execute the crowdfunding idea and put all the money towards histogen? Replicel doesn't need funding, they got a boatload from Shiseido. Follica probably has enough from PureTech Ventures.

                            Seems to me that if Histogen had to, they'd probably beg for money.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hellouser
                              So what do we do now?

                              Do we try and execute the crowdfunding idea and put all the money towards histogen? Replicel doesn't need funding, they got a boatload from Shiseido. Follica probably has enough from PureTech Ventures.

                              Seems to me that if Histogen had to, they'd probably beg for money.
                              I still think access to the stock markets is the way to go for Histogen. I don't know why the deal didn't go through, like I said it makes sense that there was something about that specific shell they didn't like. But I still think it's the way to go.

                              Once they go public, anybody who wants to crowdfund just can buy shares and invest in them that way.

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