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piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp
discuss this method in here. if results are really that good, this could be a game changer.
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Anyone thinking of a diy attempt?
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It's bs don't get too excited folks. Cure won't come at any time before 20 years from now. If all goes well, we might get something better than fin within the next 5-8 years, but most of us here now won't be able to save their hair.
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Originally Posted by Thinning87
It's bs don't get too excited folks. Cure won't come at any time before 20 years from now. If all goes well, we might get something better than fin within the next 5-8 years, but most of us here now won't be able to save their hair.
As negative as this comment is, one cannot possibly at least accept this as a very likely scenario. Nobody gives a rats piss about curing baldness.
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you guys are ridiculous...
CB- should be a lot better than fin, should be out in 2016 best case, more likely 2017-2018.
histogen- better than fin and minox, should be released in asia in 2015-2016
bim- better than minox, should be released in 2015 IN THE USA.
follica- has grown human hair on bald scalp via wounding, already been through phase I/II trails...adding FGF9 to see if they can get better results...could very well be out in 3 years IN THE USA....as a cure
PILOFOCUS- scarless hair transplant, should be available in the USA within 6-7 months...WITH DONOR REGENERATION....we just don't know how significant the regeneration is yet...although Artista said the regen pics were "breathtaking"
PRP- some doctors, including Dr. Wesley are beginning to have more success with this as they toy with the dosage and amount of injections
Replicel- supposed to be releasing a product in asia in 2015, seems like it's going to be more towards 2016 though. Their results are still better than fin/minox...also they just got a huge investor after they showed their 12 month results to them...could be a sign that they got better results at 12 months
many doctors are getting some sort of regeneration..it's just a matter of getting it consistently...all we need is 50%+ regen to cure most nw5...and 7% to cure most nw6...85% to cure nw7
Not to mention, SMP...SMP is showing to be a great addition to add the visual effect of density...(look at joe's video in the SMP section)
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Originally Posted by FearTheLoss
you guys are ridiculous...
CB- should be a lot better than fin, should be out in 2016 best case, more likely 2017-2018.
histogen- better than fin and minox, should be released in asia in 2015-2016
bim- better than minox, should be released in 2015 IN THE USA.
follica- has grown human hair on bald scalp via wounding, already been through phase I/II trails...adding FGF9 to see if they can get better results...could very well be out in 3 years IN THE USA....as a cure
PILOFOCUS- scarless hair transplant, should be available in the USA within 6-7 months...WITH DONOR REGENERATION....we just don't know how significant the regeneration is yet...although Artista said the regen pics were "breathtaking"
PRP- some doctors, including Dr. Wesley are beginning to have more success with this as they toy with the dosage and amount of injections
Replicel- supposed to be releasing a product in asia in 2015, seems like it's going to be more towards 2016 though. Their results are still better than fin/minox...also they just got a huge investor after they showed their 12 month results to them...could be a sign that they got better results at 12 months
many doctors are getting some sort of regeneration..it's just a matter of getting it consistently...all we need is 50%+ regen to cure most nw5...and 7% to cure most nw6...85% to cure nw7
Not to mention, SMP...SMP is showing to be a great addition to add the visual effect of density...(look at joe's video in the SMP section)
You know I wish this were true more than most things in life, but we have to be more conservative. What you're describing is all best case scenario. You can't rely on these timelines, we've all seen histogen's original timelines from a few years ago, or how replicel thought they had it and then had the phase 1 results they showed, or Follica claiming they might have it within 2 years...
Truth is, a full blown cure will eventually come true, but only from the tsuji/christiano/Jahoda teams. In other words, there is no doubt the stem cell research being done will give us the ultimate cure. But all this stuff is in its infancy and it'll take 10 years BEST case scenario...
In the meantime, we have all our hopes in replicel and Follica. Yeah histogen might be great especially if with a good ht to replenish donor area etc. etc. but in reality the only potential treatments can come from these two companies as they are the only ones left working for the full cure.
Putting topical anti-dht on your head won't bring hair back, or at least a sufficient amount for decent looks. It will be great for my cousin who is ten years younger though... But for us, don't even rely on it.
So go for the hair transplant if you want, but I recommend everyone try going with a shaved head first. It's so liberating and you really do forget about it within a few days.
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Originally Posted by FearTheLoss
you guys are ridiculous...
CB- should be a lot better than fin, should be out in 2016 best case, more likely 2017-2018.
histogen- better than fin and minox, should be released in asia in 2015-2016
bim- better than minox, should be released in 2015 IN THE USA.
follica- has grown human hair on bald scalp via wounding, already been through phase I/II trails...adding FGF9 to see if they can get better results...could very well be out in 3 years IN THE USA....as a cure
PILOFOCUS- scarless hair transplant, should be available in the USA within 6-7 months...WITH DONOR REGENERATION....we just don't know how significant the regeneration is yet...although Artista said the regen pics were "breathtaking"
PRP- some doctors, including Dr. Wesley are beginning to have more success with this as they toy with the dosage and amount of injections
Replicel- supposed to be releasing a product in asia in 2015, seems like it's going to be more towards 2016 though. Their results are still better than fin/minox...also they just got a huge investor after they showed their 12 month results to them...could be a sign that they got better results at 12 months
many doctors are getting some sort of regeneration..it's just a matter of getting it consistently...all we need is 50%+ regen to cure most nw5...and 7% to cure most nw6...85% to cure nw7
Not to mention, SMP...SMP is showing to be a great addition to add the visual effect of density...(look at joe's video in the SMP section)
Also we dont need to wait for CB to be released commercially, if we can see what vehicle they used for phase 2 trials then wed be sorted
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Originally Posted by Thinning87
It's bs don't get too excited folks. Cure won't come at any time before 20 years from now. If all goes well, we might get something better than fin within the next 5-8 years, but most of us here now won't be able to save their hair.
Yeah... and this could be that something which is not a cure but just something better than fin...
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Originally Posted by Thinning87
It's bs don't get too excited folks. Cure won't come at any time before 20 years from now. If all goes well, we might get something better than fin within the next 5-8 years, but most of us here now won't be able to save their hair.
So you're saying we'll be on mars before we get close to a cure for baldness?
I dont think the cure is CLOSE, but definitely within a decade away, just judging by all the progress in research right now.
not necessarily you but Ifeel like some people expect a drug to release without problems within like a year or two and that was never feasible at least in north america.
BIM is probably the closest thing we have to a release in NA.
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Theoretically, most people could have the appearance of a full head of hair next year if they wanted to.....with a combination of SMP and Pilofocus, one could cut the sides to a 1-2 guard and move a good amount of hair to the top..and have hair...regardless of how good the regeneration ends up being
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