"It's sounds like you're making broadly general statements based on limited knowledge."
Yawn, back when you were in your mother's womb, and I was having direct conversations with guys like Stenn and Jahoda, I realized Jahoda would never be able to bring this research to fruition because he lacks the experience and skills necessary to accomplish this.
Look, I'm not telling you anything here anyone that is familiar with Jahoda's research doesn't already know. Jahoda freely admits this and even talked about it in an interview today.
COLIN JAHODA: "For me it's more of a proof of principle thing in the sense that someone had to show that we could do this multiplication step. The next stage is really to, you know, cosmetically, people are only going to be happy with a follicle that grows hair that's the right length, the right color, grows in the right direction etc, so you know there's a whole secondary step that has to be taken.
SOME OF THEM ARE ALMOST KIND OF ALMOST ENGINEERING PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT REALLY MY SCIENCE. BUT WHAT IT WILL DO IS IT WILL SPARK A LOT OF INTEREST IN PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THIS KIND OF THING TO TAKE IT FORWARD, I THINK."
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3873945.htm
So although, you might not like what I said, and you might want to get me to take it back, I can't take back the truth and replace it with a lie in an attempt to provide you with false hope.
"James, you've written thousands of words about Dr. Gho, praising him, defending him, implying that he's found the "cure" based on "HM" and that he and he alone knows/knew what it was, you don't say a single word about him now."
That's not true. I praised Gho for being in the forefront of the science and felt at the time that he was the researcher who was best positioned to bring hair multiplication to fruition. It's important to realize, I was not a one trick pony back in those days. I was also having direct conversations with Kemp, Jahoda, Kim, and many others. This helped me to realize that Gho truly was in the lead. Since that time, me, you, and many others subsequently put our faith in ICX, Aderans, etc. Unfortunately, these guys simply ended up duplicating Gho's earlier research and wound up failing at the exact same stage(consistency issues). Are you now claiming that you did not hype Aderans and knew all along it would end in failure?
Next up, Kevin McElwee, who I also corresponded with a time or two back in the day. Interestingly, I got less information and enthusiasm from him than any other researcher I contacted (including Jahoda). Not that his ongoing research effort will end in failure. But nearest I can tell, his current effort is very similar to what the rest have already tried before. Unless he has added something dramatically new that he is hiding from public eye, there is a very strong chance he will end up where the others who came before him did. Can you supply a valid argument to the contrary?
Guys like Nigam come along, hype themselves, say a couple of buzzwords, and get people to believe they are right around the corner from a cure. And all it takes to gain a hoard of groupies is to use the same old photo and lighting techniques that hair transplant clinics have used for ages.
I say what I say not because I'm uninformed on the subject matter. I say it because I've already been here, I've already seen this, and I've already done this. The tricks that fool you into believing you are looking at a brand new car appear to me to be the same old car disguised behind a brand new paint job.
"If these are "dark days" of Hair Multiplication, then how did we get here, if Gho had the secret all along?"
Once again, Gho foresaw the future and performed these experiments well out in front of the rest of the world. Unfortunately, he couldn't figure out the consistency problem, and he failed. Seeing others follow down the exact same path and end up failing, it's obvious this is par for the course. If anything, it supports my earlier claim that we have reached the dark days of hair multiplication.
You ask who has ever done what Jahoda has done? I'm surprised you asked, because you already know the answer. In order to explain this, let's look at how Jahoda describes this new breakthrough:
COLIN JAHODA: "What we've done differently here is taken a small bit of the follicle, small bit of tissue, multiplying out the cells in that tissue. But when you put that into the skin, that structure interacts with the environment and creates a new, completely new, follicle."
Like I said, same old car disguised behind a brand new paint job.
"Please, let's give Jahoda and Christiano some credit for trying this, expanding the scope of research, and pursuing these ideas. Don't you think they know about what Aderans' successes and failures were?"
No they do not know about Aderans' successes and failures. That's exactly my point. They are speaking from what has been done in academia. This is a very different world from what has occurred in the private sector. Let's see, Jahoda's funding way under $1 million. Aderans' funding $150 million.
I stand by my earlier statements. But please don't confuse this with me claiming that hair multiplication is dead. As Dr. Paul Kemp, current CSO of Intercytex pointed out, in advancing new treatments, after much initial enthusiasm, the industry reaches a lull where people give up on the idea. Eventually, a new generation rises up with a crop of new ideas and brings forth the cure.
We are currently in the lull. If you don't think so, tell me who has $150 million more dollars to see this treatment to fruition? The answer is, these are the dark days of hair multiplication.
What do you guys think?
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