Histogen - fake images?

[Scientalk56]

Those are from two different clinical trials, they completed one pilot study with 24 patients and the most recent phase I/II clinical trial with 56 patients.

You guys really need to stop looking for failure.

it's the same clinical trial

[greatjob!]

it's the same clinical trial

Where did you get the first picture?

[youngin]

They did perform two different clinical trials, they completed one pilot study with 24 patients and the most recent phase I/II clinical trial with 56 patients.

You guys really need to stop looking for failure.

The title of the thread is "fake images". The images are obviously exactly the same.

[Scientalk56]

Where did you get the first picture?

from mesa presentation on this link:

http://www.histogen.com/downloads/sc...2013-final.pdf

[greatjob!]

Well it's either a mistake, the result of further analysis, at a different 12 week time point (they ran 12 weeks for safety and 12 weeks for efficacy) or flat out lying and manipulation of the figures. I think the latter is the least plausible.

[crafter]

They did perform two different clinical trials, they completed one pilot study with 24 patients and the most recent phase I/II clinical trial with 56 patients.

You guys really need to stop looking for failure.

but they're the same photos so it must be from the same trial?

I hope someone can contact them.

[JJJJrS]

Whether you like Iron_Man or not, he did a good job exposing these pictures long ago.

If you look at the second picture (S1016) and actually do a hair count, you'll notice that there's hardly any difference at all between the before and after. Nothing even close to the numbers they have listed beside the picture. If anyone doesn't believe this, then try counting the hairs for yourself.

The hair pattern/direction for the first picture (S2018) doesn't even seem to match either.

It's disappointing that Histogen continues to use the same controversial pictures. I personally would not get my hopes up with them until they show us something conclusive, which they haven't been able to do up to this point.

[hellouser]

Thread title is misleading.

The photos are not fake. However, the photos ARE the same. My main problem with the pictures is the fact that they did not SCALE the images, but rather resized and stretched them. The photos are definitely one and the same, I just had a look through photoshop (took the bottom photo, cut it out, placed overtop the top photo and resized until it fit).

Photos should never be tampered like that.

Those numbers however probably reflect updated results. Still good in my opinion.

[rdawg]

It's disappointing that Histogen continues to use the same controversial pictures. I personally would not get my hopes up with them until they show us something conclusive, which they haven't been able to do up to this point.

[Desmond84]

Look at those pictures



Same Subject (s1016) same period of time (12 weeks) different hair count and terminal count numbers??????????????

LOL....well this is awkward!