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    Quote Originally Posted by 534623 View Post
    What do you mean? The following part?
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    "Any hair loss treatment must produce cosmetically acceptable results and without control of hair angulation and trajectory in hair cloning, unattractive cosmetic outcomes are likely. The amount of donor follicles to be collected is far greater than initially thought. Donor cell extraction process is difficult with significant amount of cellular waste producing limited usable cells. Thousands of follicles are needed to replicate them for treating baldness. Potential for cancer development with excessive auto replication of injected cloned cells is also a concern," said Dr. Hayatdavoudi.
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    The problem, for example, with the "control of hair angulation and trajectory in hair cloning" is not not only "likely" it's, unfortunately, a FACT. For example, Dr. Ken Washenik (Aderans) reported this as well 1 year ago or so, namely, THE reason why they stopped on focusing for "brand new hairs from scratch".

    But don't worry:
    Dr. Nigam has solved all these problems within month - and with photoshop ...
    LOL!! That made my day.

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    I dont get it. They can create the hair, but can't control the direction.

    Can't they build some micro structure (like nigam and lauster do) that is biodegradable and will fade away after the hair has it's direction fixed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 534623 View Post
    What do you mean? The following part?
    *******************************
    "Any hair loss treatment must produce cosmetically acceptable results and without control of hair angulation and trajectory in hair cloning, unattractive cosmetic outcomes are likely. The amount of donor follicles to be collected is far greater than initially thought. Donor cell extraction process is difficult with significant amount of cellular waste producing limited usable cells. Thousands of follicles are needed to replicate them for treating baldness. Potential for cancer development with excessive auto replication of injected cloned cells is also a concern," said Dr. Hayatdavoudi.
    *******************************

    The problem, for example, with the "control of hair angulation and trajectory in hair cloning" is not not only "likely" it's, unfortunately, a FACT. For example, Dr. Ken Washenik (Aderans) reported this as well 1 year ago or so, namely, THE reason why they stopped on focusing for "brand new hairs from scratch".

    But don't worry:
    Dr. Nigam has solved all these problems within month - and with photoshop ...

    agree :-) but I was just wondering if it will create a domino effect in people giving up the field?
    cause I was interested in this for example: http://www.hasci.com/en/science/hair-multiplication/

    I though it was just a matter of time, to perfect it as they say... it could even be in 5 years for me (2020), I would have just bridged with three HST in the meantime... altough we never got the answer about eligibility of already transplanted patient for injection of HM;;;

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    I hope Gho can get more than 20% some day.

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    Some big pharmas must have pressured them to stop this research! Afterall treatment is much more profitable than a cure!

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    If theyre getting a good yield and good acceptance rate thats still a huge improvement.

    Even if they never get the direction sorted id prefer a buzzcut to a skin head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    Some big pharmas must have pressured them to stop this research! Afterall treatment is much more profitable than a cure!
    I wouldn't doubt that for a second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    Some big pharmas must have pressured them to stop this research! Afterall treatment is much more profitable than a cure!
    Or just paid them off.

    Surely replicel would have discovered that injected cells dont create the proper angle for hair growth in their years of research before conducting trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    Some big pharmas must have pressured them to stop this research! Afterall treatment is much more profitable than a cure!
    Oh yeah, and that would've put the whole hair transplant and wig industry on its ass. I can't imagine how much money would be lost by these profiteers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by locke999 View Post
    Hi guys, found an article that was published yesterday 9/12/13, here's a link.

    http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1224...ere-tr1-natura

    cliffs:

    -they don't have control over how cloned hair follicles will grow, it can go up down, side, so they are putting a halt to researching about hair cloning

    -they are now researching a natural plant called Origenere TR1 because "A study using Origenere TR1 extract exhibited hair growth up to 38%, significant improvement versus Minoxidil and Finasteride."

    Thoughts:
    I have some questions to the veterans of this forum.

    -Who is this company and are they important?
    -Is this bad news since it suggest hair cloning is way more complicated than initially thought and other companies that are going the hair cloning route are going to quit too? For example, if this company can't do it, why would we even start to think that a small lab like Nigams would be able to produce good results via his 3d culture or whatever he is working with.
    -Does this natural plant really has any potential to be better than finasteride?
    Don't worry about Alvi Armani

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