Expecting to see a NW5 get "laid off" today

[yeahyeahyeah]

FDA approved medication, FUE's, concealers, temporary SMP, maybe soon the solutions of Nigam and Mwamba etc.

Nothing we can do about it? That's just a mindless thing depressed sufferers like to say on the forums.

FDA approved med = hit/miss in terms of efficiency/health risks

FUE = limited donor

Conceelers = short term fix

SMP = can't grow your hair out

[fred970]

What happens if you combine those solutions? Think about it.

[mpb47]

Never have you seen favortism based on appearance? I rly doubt that man. But how old is the woman you work for & how old is the guy with medical problems?
Sometimes if there is enough age difference, then the woman can take on a mothering role even if the guy looks bad (this is 10x more likely if she has sons). Also medical problems can get sympathy I will admit, unlike MPB whic his just a big joke to society

Sure it does go on in areas like sales, but usually more towards women than men.

And I have seen attractive people who were hired and were really well qualified. About 3 years ago , right before we got hit with hiring freezes, I was days away from hiring a really attractive women. It was simply because non of the other applicants were remotely even qualified and she was the only one that was.

yes she is older women for sure, but I still don't believe that is it. I simply think that mpb does not hold all guys back. This guy is over 40 and is the same guy I mentioned a month or so back. We were at an office party and 2 of the girls started making fun of his mpb, calling him mr shinny head. While that sounds bad, the younger one is attractive and has had a thing for him for awhile now and doesn't stop talking about him. Why would a 20 something, attractive, big boobed girl go after an older totally bald guy? I don't know but it certainly is not holding him back.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Sure it does go on in areas like sales, but usually more towards women than men.

And I have seen attractive people who were hired and were really well qualified. About 3 years ago , right before we got hit with hiring freezes, I was days away from hiring a really attractive women. It was simply because non of the other applicants were remotely even qualified and she was the only one that was.

yes she is older women for sure, but I still don't believe that is it. I simply think that mpb does not hold all guys back. This guy is over 40 and is the same guy I mentioned a month or so back. We were at an office party and 2 of the girls started making fun of his mpb, calling him mr shinny head. While that sounds bad, the younger one is attractive and has had a thing for him for awhile now and doesn't stop talking about him. Why would a 20 something, attractive, big boobed girl go after an older totally bald guy? I don't know but it certainly is not holding him back.

MPB is not a rare occurrence, I think the OP needs to see that.

[Proper]

Sure it does go on in areas like sales, but usually more towards women than men.

And I have seen attractive people who were hired and were really well qualified. About 3 years ago , right before we got hit with hiring freezes, I was days away from hiring a really attractive women. It was simply because non of the other applicants were remotely even qualified and she was the only one that was.

yes she is older women for sure, but I still don't believe that is it. I simply think that mpb does not hold all guys back. This guy is over 40 and is the same guy I mentioned a month or so back. We were at an office party and 2 of the girls started making fun of his mpb, calling him mr shinny head. While that sounds bad, the younger one is attractive and has had a thing for him for awhile now and doesn't stop talking about him. Why would a 20 something, attractive, big boobed girl go after an older totally bald guy? I don't know but it certainly is not holding him back.

Maybe they have something in common, ie. Work. While it is a fantasy to go after someone who looks good, it is more worthwhile to go after someone who has something in common just because they fathom up the thought that it is naturally more safe and enduring knowing that this person won't f and ditch.

But who knows, women love all kinds of stuff and it really depends on the individual and their likes/dislikes.

[mpb47]

Maybe they have something in common, ie. Work. While it is a fantasy to go after someone who looks good, it is more worthwhile to go after someone who has something in common just because they fathom up the thought that it is naturally more safe and enduring knowing that this person won't f and ditch.

But who knows, women love all kinds of stuff and it really depends on the individual and their likes/dislikes.

It probably has to do with the fact that they are both literary geeks.

And the guy has a sense of humor that people seem to like. And some guys don't look bad bald and I would say he is one of them.

[Mcgunther]

I think there could be some truth to this there are plenty of studies how looks can effect both men and women on their career path. For the most part ppl are judged by how well they work n I think most men only lose with their looks if it effects thier confidence and create self-fulfilling prophecies. I personally think that for men being socially awkward would give you a disadvantage more so that your looks.

[Dan26]

I think there could be some truth to this there are plenty of studies how looks can effect both men and women on their career path. For the most part ppl are judged by how well they work n I think most men only lose with their looks if it effects thier confidence and create self-fulfilling prophecies. I personally think that for men being socially awkward would give you a disadvantage more so that your looks.

^^^

vary true, a lot of great looking dudes who are too shy or have no charisma and zero game with woman...youll still pull the odd girl based strictly off looks, but definitely not be gettin the woman you want

[Keeno]

I agree that the chances of this guy being disciplined, or his job being in jeopardy, as a consequence of his Norwood level are very remote. In the time I have been at my workplace, people have been disciplined and suspended left right and centre. I don't know the reasons why for any of them as it is confidential and ultimately it is absolutely nothing to do with you. Social awkwardness doesn't help, and I suspect it's the bigger factor here.

That's not to say it isn't a disadvantage, I still think balding can have an effect on professional success. Before I got my current job, where I have been successful for 8 years, I had a serious struggle getting and keeping jobs. I had a horseshoe almost as soon as I graduated from university and was starting my career, and each time I was job searching I would have over 25 interviews before I got a job. Even then I was only able to get jobs in which I'd be working very closely and confined with abusive, narcissistic bosses who left me traumatised, and certainly couldn't get jobs in more balanced environments where there'd be more (or any) women around. I also have Asperger's, and struggled for much of my life the hard way against social awkwardness. Mind you if I hadn't had the Asperger's too, I'm sure I wouldn't have had quite as much of a struggle getting and keeping jobs.

When I say I've been successful in my current job, I mean in terms of performance, but certainly not interpersonally. I have had several members of staff totally shun me in what is quite a close staff team, and I would make the observation that these people were usually young females.

As much as I am on the autistic spectrum, when I started to shave my head about 6 months ago things were different straight away. We then completed a big restructure which brought in several new staff, mostly young females and they have been very warm in their interactions with me. They never saw me with the grown out horseshoe and don't know what it's like.

As a result of the restructure one of these young women who shunned me is now my manager/supervisor. She acknowledged that my shaved head, the lack of horseshoe, was good and treated me totally differently just because of that, and the relationship where she is my supervisor has gone well. Looks like my decision to shave my head came at the right time, and my experience before would speak of balding having a significant effect in the workplace.

[lepke]

This guy has been on thin ice for months. Definitely one of the more dependable workers in the office but he is NW5 with bad teeth. Female management usually acts like he is not in the room unless it is to correct/reprimand....he tries so hard sometimes to win them over that it is depressing. They just do not care for him

This is one of the biggest reasons I have been bringing up how appearance/hair matter even in your professional life. I knew this guy was at the bottom of the totem poll since I got there, even though he has been there longer & even though he works hard. In the meantime I hide my hair loss, do an ok job at work but tend to royally screw up like every 1-2 months....the main concern management has shown is that I would be too hard on myself
This sh*t happens at work places all over the world. The world is a sick sick place. At least he does not have family to take care of.

I will never ever go to work without my hair painstakingly styled. If they realize I have MPB I bet it would change their impression of me & I would be on the chopping block too. F*ck that.
Somebody please cure this condition before it takes all our jobs for godsake
ok have a good day

I hope he gets National Coalition of Men, and have legal support, and sues the shit out of them.