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    He is not just mistreated for being bald obviously. If he looked like Jason Statham he would be fine. But he does not, he is well below average, + he has awkward social skills (however I will again say, he IS dependable in his job going by everything I have seen this year)
    The point is this. If you look bad (& when you are NW4+ you most likely look bad as a white guy) you are held to different standards. You MUST be more likeable, better at your job, more careful not to step on toes. You absolutely can not be socially awkward which is something you can get away with if your appearance is above average (hard to pull off once you go NW3 & beyond)
    These things apply less if you are working for men (in fact looking good can = a disadvantage with male bosses) but it depends. If you have female coworkers who will vouch for you it can definitely help even if your boss is male.

    I think if you are in this guy's situation the best bet is finding work under a family member or friend. With nepotism you do not have to follow the usual social rules/standards. Otherwise you need to be more aware of how you do your job + how you interact with your coworkers and bosses
    Significant balding can make the difference between being able to skate by (while still getting raises/promotions) vs. having to bust your ass to tread water. Genetic dice roll....how people can think there is a caring God who set this up amazes me. The same guy who created Brad Pitt's hairline created Jason Alexander's, sure

    Admittedly my BDD has been kind of bad lately which is probably why my posts have been more depressing. But this does not make them less valid and I know at least some of you already were very aware of what I am saying
    btw I admit some of you are right in some of your comments, I might reply later today

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    This post is pathetic, Im sorry but it is. No one will get sacked, fired, etc for being Bald from any company, it just doesn't happen!!

    Most likely for poor performance based on what you've described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    This post is pathetic, Im sorry but it is. No one will get sacked, fired, etc for being Bald from any company, it just doesn't happen!!

    Most likely for poor performance based on what you've described.
    You did not read the whole thread so I will summarize

    No you will not get fired just for visible balding in most cases (in some cases yes, examples are modeling or acting jobs). The point is that being NW5 is a very significant factor in why this guy looks bad, looking bad is a very significant factor in how women perceive you.....& how you are perceived at work IS more important than how good you actually are at your job. As long as you meet a minimum level of performance, the game is about getting your bosses (to a lesser extent your coworkers) to like you.
    If you work under/around a bunch of women who see you as a nasty toad then you are starting at a major disadvantage. You WILL have to work harder & be more likeable to get the kinds of rewards that above average guys get just by generally not screwing up (actually you still will not get the same rewards, since female coworkers will not flirt with you or try to get you out for drinks.....but at least you will get to keep your job & possibly get some raises, even promotions).

    My coworker looks like crap, socially is not very adept. Guess what? He is THE bottom of the totem poll.
    Maybe there are factors I do not see, that make his performance worse than I think. But I will ask again, if he was a tall guy who looked like a Hollywood leading man, would his treatment be anywhere near the same (w/ the exact same performance)? No it would not

    If you grew up like most of us hearing a million times "it is all about education & hard work" then step 1 is to forget that. Appearances matter at work. They matter a lot. Personality matters also, but that is step 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    You did not read the whole thread so I will summarize

    No you will not get fired just for visible balding in most cases (in some cases yes, examples are modeling or acting jobs). The point is that being NW5 is a very significant factor in why this guy looks bad, looking bad is a very significant factor in how women perceive you.....& how you are perceived at work IS more important than how good you actually are at your job. As long as you meet a minimum level of performance, the game is about getting your bosses (to a lesser extent your coworkers) to like you.
    If you work under/around a bunch of women who see you as a nasty toad then you are starting at a major disadvantage. You WILL have to work harder & be more likeable to get the kinds of rewards that above average guys get just by generally not screwing up (actually you still will not get the same rewards, since female coworkers will not flirt with you or try to get you out for drinks.....but at least you will get to keep your job & possibly get some raises, even promotions).

    My coworker looks like crap, socially is not very adept. Guess what? He is THE bottom of the totem poll.
    Maybe there are factors I do not see, that make his performance worse than I think. But I will ask again, if he was a tall guy who looked like a Hollywood leading man, would his treatment be anywhere near the same (w/ the exact same performance)? No it would not

    If you grew up like most of us hearing a million times "it is all about education & hard work" then step 1 is to forget that. Appearances matter at work. They matter a lot. Personality matters also, but that is step 2
    Nonsense!

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    I don't care if I lacked reading the whole thread, you make it clear in your post that appearances matter at work and those who are bald will suffer as a result because they are inclined to have poor appearance?

    Dude, half of my senior managers are bald?!?! What you've done is come up with some rubbish theory and decided it's true. You have no fact or proven statistic for this. Surely a site like this is to look for solutions for balding, not drag people down and forever cause depression.

    I'm sorry to rant, but I felt like shit, shaved my head and life is ****ing better then it was last time, if I can do it, you can too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    I don't care if I lacked reading the whole thread, you make it clear in your post that appearances matter at work and those who are bald will suffer as a result because they are inclined to have poor appearance?

    Dude, half of my senior managers are bald?!?! What you've done is come up with some rubbish theory and decided it's true. You have no fact or proven statistic for this.
    This is not some pet theory I came up with 1 day. Better looking people get preferential treatment from the opposite gender, you know this. & there are studies to confirm, I think even yeahyeahyeah on this forum has posted some

    About your bald senior managers. I did go over some work scenarios where looks do not necessarily matter much....eg heterosexual men in positions of authority do not typically want to surround themselves with attractive men. Same can apply to elderly women, lesbians, women who look terrible, etc. In these cases you just need to look average or not too much worse (men who are repulsive to look at will still be screwed). Personality will still matter.
    It is still better to smooth sail in a job where management/coworkers favor you just because they like seeing you in their work place. Always.
    & keep in mind if you work with women in jobs like the "exception situations" I have covered, they can still put in a good word for you & this can be advantageous. So even if your boss is some bald guy or lesbian, your appearance might work in your favor

    Oh I just thought of more exceptions. If you are the rare "good looking bald guy" then you still have a chance. Also, if you have friends or family in the company. If you work for a larger corp, the top guys typically used connections to get there

    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    Surely a site like this is to look for solutions for balding, not drag people down and forever cause depression.
    This section is called "hair loss rants".....people trying to feel good about balding should definitely not be here
    But I have given solid advice to many posters on BTT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    I'm sorry to rant, but I felt like shit, shaved my head and life is ****ing better then it was last time, if I can do it, you can too.
    My headshape/face do not work for baldness, just like most men. Hair is crucial to image for everyone except very lucky guys like Jason Statham
    (who would be even luckier if he never went bald)

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    Its rough being bald. And I'm just at that age where appearances matter a lot to me.

    However, my district manager is bald. His boss is bald. The five brothers who own the company and started from scratch is bald and/or is balding. Most of the employees I've seen working at other locations are bald. The only people who aren't bald are the students that they hire. Other than that, everyone bald is surviving and doesn't look like they care much about it. Most of the bald people I've talked to have great personalities and are people I would definitely chill with.

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    One of the most successful dudes at my company is not only bald, but also cross eyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper View Post
    Its rough being bald. And I'm just at that age where appearances matter a lot to me.

    However, my district manager is bald. His boss is bald. The five brothers who own the company and started from scratch is bald and/or is balding. Most of the employees I've seen working at other locations are bald. The only people who aren't bald are the students that they hire. Other than that, everyone bald is surviving and doesn't look like they care much about it. Most of the bald people I've talked to have great personalities and are people I would definitely chill with.
    This is good but also a perfect example of some of the things I said before....hard work is less than half the battle unless you are starting your own business. & bald guys like to surround themselves with other bald guys. If it was a company run by women do you think the average employee would look the same?
    Also take it from me dude, you will care about your appearance longer than you might think....I will be 30 in 2 years. Still pretty much all my major social victories (job opportunities, hookups etc) come from people liking how I look, & my social failures come from someone not liking my look enough.
    This world is a superficial place

    Quote Originally Posted by Notcoolanymore View Post
    One of the most successful dudes at my company is not only bald, but also cross eyed.
    My guess is 1 of the following applies to him. He works for men, or women who are old or lesbians or look awful, or someone he is connected with outside the company (friend/family).
    Working for a straight woman who is 18-50 when you are bald + cross eyed is like being in a potato sack race with concrete blocks on your feet. x5 if she is attractive.

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    This thread is a bunch of bollocks.

    Good looks in combination with capability can/will positively influence career opportunities. That's the only truth in here.
    The rest of it is just exaggeration, combined with delusion, misogyny and pure nonsense.

    These kind of threads make me angry. '25 going on 65' you're not miserable because you're (going) bald, but because you're a miserable human being, reflecting your own narrow-minded opinions on other people. You're giving balding brothers a bad name.

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