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    Dr. is the dermatologist, and M is Myself.

    Dr: Micro needling is becoming popular; it increases absorption and delivery of whatever it is you want to deliver. Youíre making tiny holes, much like the size of a pixel on a screen, maybe a little bigger. And theyre going down to a depth of where your collagen is, so weíre doing that for wrinkles, [Ö] where your hair follicle is. Itís not fun, I mean, it hurts. So we have to numb your whole head, and put a gel on, and we microneedle you, and then yes, you could go home and use Rogaine.

    M: What sort of a depth would be appropriate to microneedle at?

    Dr: Well, thereís different sizes. (0.5mm, 1.0mm, etc.)

    M: The study I believed used 1.5mm.

    Dr: Iím happy to try it if you want. I mean, itís a decent journal. The thing about scientific activity is it shouldnít be sponsored by a drug company, as it will be biased, it should be in a reputable journal, peer reviewed by other non biased people. The study is blinded, too, which is good.

    M: They rolled once a week though[..] pretty frequently. I was wondering if I could do it on my own?

    Dr: You canít. Well, actually no, we have one that doesnít go that deep that you take with you. The home ones are actually just 0.2mm, so they donít go very deep.

    M: So for home use itíd be like a 0.2mm type of thing, nothing deeper?

    Dr: Well you canít, right? Otherwise it hurts. But itís actually an interesting concept. Itís actually very interesting. Itís something I might look into using for alopecia patients, like alopecia areata.

    M: Are there any risks with microneedling; is there any risk of scarring?

    Dr: No. Even with deeper needles, like the 1mm, no.

    M: Iíve read that for acne scars people use up to around a 2mm.

    Dr: We have that for scarring, for example for people who have pock marking from acne.

    M: And even with that you feel thereís no risk?

    Dr: No. You wouldnít do it then, if there was a risk.

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    I didn't get to ask about cancer, sorry boys. My mom was in the room and it's not something I felt comfortable asking at the time.

    Risk of infection has been discussed elsewhere, and information regarding it can be found on the owndoc forums.

    I touched on wounding, which is not in the excerpt, but she didn't seem to know much of anything about it. She touted Propecia and Rogaine and the only current viable hair loss solutions.

    The discussion focused primarily on risk of scarring, which the Dr. feels there is none, even with higher mm penetration (what I gathered).

    Hopefully this can give some insights, and I apologize for not covering the breadth of questions asked in this thread. I hope its a start to better understanding this treatment.

    Thanks.

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    lol sounds like he was trying to sell you on a treatment.... sad to see docs can't look out for whats best anymore...

    "can I do it at home"

    "no"

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedHairASAP View Post
    lol sounds like he was trying to sell you on a treatment.... sad to see docs can't look out for whats best anymore...

    "can I do it at home"

    "no"

    lol
    They were, essentially, but that's what dermatologists do.

    The Dr. apparently felt 0.2 was appropriate for home use, but fvck that.

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    Great job, Clan! Thanks for sharing, that diffused my fear of scarring.

    I had doubted doctors would be enthusiastically recruiting patients for needling, if they thought there was any risk of it coming back to bite them in the ass.
    But it was good to hear from the horse's mouth.

    The Dr also seemed to feel confident in the legitimacy of the study, correct?

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    Thanks for the info, Clan.

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    Great job, Clandestine. Thanks for that.

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    Nice job Clan!

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    So he/she said he/she will try it on alopecia areata patients. Do you think he/she feels dermarolling will be effective for alopecia areata patients?

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