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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah View Post
    So why do the following men...

    not have mature hairlines?
    Your reading and comprehension skills have not improved at all I see.

    Call in during the next live show and talk to Spender about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah View Post
    There is no such thing as a mature hairline.
    Stop this BS. You are not helping yourself or anyone else.

    Call in during the next live show and talk to Spencer about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah View Post
    If you lost hair, you are balding. There is no such thing as a mature hairline. It is just a mild form of hairloss.
    "Mature hairline" w/o MPB refers to when a guy recedes at the temples/hairline corners & then does not progress. This is the norm for white guys without mpb (there are exceptions just like there are a small % of left handed people). Technically you can call this a balding process but it is not true MPB
    If a guy has loss in the crown/midscalp/forelock at the same time, or if he keeps receding past a mature hairline, he has MPB. If he has loss in the horseshoe area too, it is DUPA (if it is from genetics)

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    I think its purely opinion whether you consider a mature hairline part of the MPB process or not. If its not part of the MPB process then what mechanism causes those hairs to miniaturize in the same way as normal MPB follicle? Seems one in the same to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burtandernie View Post
    I think its purely opinion whether you consider a mature hairline part of the MPB process or not. If its not part of the MPB process then what mechanism causes those hairs to miniaturize in the same way as normal MPB follicle? Seems one in the same to me.
    Not positive but it makes sense to me that the mechanism would be the same. Maybe the "mature hairline for 40 years" guys have androgen sensitive follicles only in the temples/hairline corners (whereas true MPB sufferers have them all over the scalp)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    "Mature hairline" w/o MPB refers to when a guy recedes at the temples/hairline corners & then does not progress. This is the norm for white guys without mpb (there are exceptions just like there are a small % of left handed people). Technically you can call this a balding process but it is not true MPB
    If a guy has loss in the crown/midscalp/forelock at the same time, or if he keeps receding past a mature hairline, he has MPB. If he has loss in the horseshoe area too, it is DUPA (if it is from genetics)
    There is no science behind this claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah View Post
    There is no science behind this claim.
    Huh? Mature hairline is an observable phenomenon & happens to most white men who do not go beyond NW1-2. Go outside, look around
    Are you looking for a study to conclude the majority of non MPB sufferers do not keep a female hairline? This is like waiting for a study to tell you if you jump off a roof, you will fall to the ground. Falling = observable phenomenon. You can say there is no science behind the claim because a clinical trial has not been set up, but it is something we know exists. On the other hand....scientific study got us gravitational theory which offers an explanation for why/how this happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah View Post
    There is no science behind this claim.
    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    Huh? Mature hairline is an observable phenomenon & happens to most white men who do not go beyond NW1-2. Go outside, look around
    Are you looking for a study to conclude the majority of non MPB sufferers do not keep a female hairline? This is like waiting for a study to tell you if you jump off a roof, you will fall to the ground.
    ^That is an excellent way to put it. For thousands of years throughout recorded history most men have developed the natural and normal adult male hairline as they masculinize. History also carries with it the evidence that if a male is castrated, the masculinization process gets interrupted. If a male is castrated before he develops a mature male hairline, he will never develop a mature male hairline. That is pretty solid proof right there that the mature male hairline does in fact exist. No argument against it can stand up to proof as solid as that.

    Some of these guys have no interest in hearing the truth. They only want to hear what they want to hear and nothing else. This persistent refusal to accept the truth on this matter qualifies as a psychosis.

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    I think he is just questioning if the mature hairline is actually the onset of very slow MPB. For some guys it is but I have seen too many guys stay NW1.5-2 for decades to think it is always slow MPB. W/e is causing the "adult male hairline," many guys who have it do not have DHT sensitive follicles elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    I think he is just questioning if the mature hairline is actually the onset of very slow MPB.
    Some of these guys are not questioning it, they are aggressively insisting that it is MPB. This is very uninformed, unrealistic and unreasonable. It is a psychosis.



    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    For some guys it is but I have seen too many guys stay NW1.5-2 for decades to think it is always slow MPB.
    This is true.



    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    ...many guys who have it do not have DHT sensitive follicles elsewhere
    This is also true. They develop the natural and normal adult mature male hairline and that is all. Lucky guys they are.

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