Receding temple but no shedding?

[Vic12]

I know people say everyone sheds 50-100 hairs a day, but I never see any.

My hair is 2 inches long. I'm 18 and one temple is a NW1 and the other is definitely at the NW2 stage. The rest of my hair is still thick.

When I style my hair with paste I never have a single hair in my hands.

When I shampoo my hair I try to find as many hairs as possible and I might find 1-5, if that.

No hairs on my pillow, sheets, anywhere.

If I put my hands in my hair right now and rub vigorously, I might end up with 1-2 hairs.

I don't want to start taking finasteride now if this could just be very slow hair loss, or if it will stop and come back again years from now. I'd have to pay for my own Finasteride if I had to take it, and on top of that I don't want to compromise my sex life unless I absolutely have to. I wouldnt mind following in my family's footsteps of thinning at 40, but at the same time I don't want to get hit by some serious thinning anytime soon.

So basically, is the fact that I never shed hairs at all a sign that this could be very, very slow MPB? Or does it mean nothing at all?

Also any other opinions/experiences/advice would be great. Thanks.

[BigThinker]

Based on what I read, I agree you should abstain from treatment since they're lifelong commitments and maybe unnecessary in your case.

If your hair continues to deteriorate, seek help from a specialist - assuming you are inclined to treat.

A guy in your position should be out partying and focused on reaching academic and professional benchmarks. Just take pictures every couple months if it helps you track and keep on with life a usual.

[Vic12]

Based on what I read, I agree you should abstain from treatment since they're lifelong commitments and maybe unnecessary in your case.

If your hair continues to deteriorate, seek help from a specialist - assuming you are inclined to treat.

A guy in your position should be out partying and focused on reaching academic and professional benchmarks. Just take pictures every couple months if it helps you track and keep on with life a usual.

Thanks for putting it into perspective man.

I took some pics like a week ago and I'm going to retake them in 3 months to see where I'm at.

But how did your hair loss go down and how did you stop it?

[Tracy C]

I know people say everyone sheds 50-100 hairs a day, but I never see any.

Most people don't, even if they are obsessed about it enough to look for it.

I'm 18 and one temple is a NW1 and the other is definitely at the NW2 stage.

It is not uncommon for one temple to recede more than the other.

The rest of my hair is still thick.

That's a very good thing.

If I put my hands in my hair right now and rub vigorously, I might end up with 1-2 hairs.

Don't do that. Be kind to your hair.

I don't want to start taking finasteride now if this could just be very slow hair loss....

Or it could be just the natural and normal adult mature male hairline developing. Which is very likely if the rest of your hair is really thick.

I wouldnt mind following in my family's footsteps of thinning at 40, but at the same time I don't want to get hit by some serious thinning anytime soon.

Then learn how to be kind to your hair and take proper care of it. Use sulfate free shampoo and conditioner and use Nizoral shampoo (or some other Keto shampoo) once a week. It is good to condition more often than you shampoo.

So basically, is the fact that I never shed hairs at all a sign that this could be very, very slow MPB? Or does it mean nothing at all?

Probably nothing at all. You cannot determine if you have MPB by your hairline alone. Many in this forum will wrongfully tell you that you can and that the adult male hair line is a myth. They are wrong. They are lying to themselves and each other about that. The areas that indicate MPB are the vertex and mid-anterior. Keep an eye on those areas - and take good care of your hair.

[Vic12]

Most people don't, even if they are obsessed about it enough to look for it.





It is not uncommon for one temple to recede more than the other.





That's a very good thing.





Don't do that. Be kind to your hair.





Or it could be just the natural and normal adult mature male hairline developing. Which is very likely if the rest of your hair is really thick.





Then learn how to be kind to your hair and take proper care of it. Use sulfate free shampoo and conditioner and use Nizoral shampoo (or some other Keto shampoo) once a week. It is good to condition more often than you shampoo.





Probably nothing at all. You cannot determine if you have MPB by your hairline alone. Many in this forum will wrongfully tell you that you can and that the adult male hair line is a myth. They are wrong. They are lying to themselves and each other about that. The areas that indicate MPB are the vertex and mid-anterior. Keep an eye on those areas - and take good care of your hair.

Thanks for your advice.

Yeah, I ordered Regenepure because my hair stylist recommended it, so I just went ahead and bought that and I use it every other day, the rest of the times I condition.

I know that many people do get mature hairlines, and then keep them for life (or bald later). My maternal grandfather receded to a NW2 at a young age and to this day he still has his hair. But we both have different hair texture and color.

Also, you say people don't notice their hairs shedding. Is this the case even for those suffering aggressive MPB?

[Tracy C]

Yeah, I ordered Regenepure because my hair stylist recommended it, so I just went ahead and bought that and I use it every other day...

It is not a good idea to overuse Ketoconazole. Overusing Ketoconazole can make hair loss worse - or cause hair loss if you don't normally suffer with hair loss. If we can assume that Regenepure has almost 1% Ketoconazole in it, it would be safe to use it up to twice a week but not more than that.

Also, you say people don't notice their hairs shedding. Is this the case even for those suffering aggressive MPB?

Most people do not notice. Those who are experiencing MPB and are bothered by it often obsess over it, so they count every hair they can find, thereby driving themselves even more nutty. So don't count hairs.

[Vic12]

It is not a good idea to overuse Ketoconazole. Overusing Ketoconazole can make hair loss worse - or cause hair loss if you don't normally suffer with hair loss. If we can assume that Regenepure has almost 1% Ketoconazole in it, it would be safe to use it up to twice a week but not more than that.





Most people do not notice. Those who are experiencing MPB and are bothered by it often obsess over it, so they count every hair they can find, thereby driving themselves even more nutty. So don't count hairs.

Holy s*** I had no idea that using it more than twice a week could cause hair loss. To be honest with you, I used it every day for a few weeks but recently I just started every other day. Where did you find out that overusing ketoconazole can worsen hair loss?

And the reason I ask about the shedding is because on this forum and on other places on the internet, guys freak out about seeing "tons of hair" on the sink, shower, pillow and even school books while I never see any.

But thanks for giving me the heads up on the shampoo, I'm going to start using it a couple times a week and conditioning the rest of the time.

[BigThinker]

Thanks for putting it into perspective man.

I took some pics like a week ago and I'm going to retake them in 3 months to see where I'm at.

But how did your hair loss go down and how did you stop it?

Oh, about 14 months ago I noticed my hairline was getting thin at the corners. I disregarded it and told myself it was TE due to working two jobs. Hair continued to deteriorate and by October 12 I was very concerned. I told myself it would fix itself, until Feb 13. In Feb 13, it was no longer ignorable, so I got MPB confirmed. Started treatment shortly after and now I'm hoping for results.

Honestly though, my hair loss has been so aggressive, I would be very surprised if treatments save it. Going from NW 1 to NW 2.5 in 1.5 years is ridiculous.

So, just monitor your hair and make moves when you feel it's necessary.

[Tracy C]

Where did you find out that overusing ketoconazole can worsen hair loss?

It is one of the listed possible side effects of the drug. However a pilot study showed that at just the right amount it can help treat hair loss as an adjunct to other treatments. It makes sense that using it just the right amount could also help to keep hair loss at bay before it really gets going.

And the reason I ask about the shedding is because on this forum and on other places on the internet, guys freak out about seeing "tons of hair" on the sink, shower, pillow and even school books while I never see any.

These guys are freaking out and making the problem worsen as they continue to freak out. It's a downward spiral. The next thing you know they are one of the many unreasonable posters in internet hairloss forums.

[Vic12]

Oh, about 14 months ago I noticed my hairline was getting thin at the corners. I disregarded it and told myself it was TE due to working two jobs. Hair continued to deteriorate and by October 12 I was very concerned. I told myself it would fix itself, until Feb 13. In Feb 13, it was no longer ignorable, so I got MPB confirmed. Started treatment shortly after and now I'm hoping for results.

Honestly though, my hair loss has been so aggressive, I would be very surprised if treatments save it. Going from NW 1 to NW 2.5 in 1.5 years is ridiculous.

So, just monitor your hair and make moves when you feel it's necessary.

If you're on treatments I think the odds are still on your side. Good luck man.

And to Tracy (not sure how to quote two people in a single post) thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to use Regenepure a couple times a week, I just hope that using it so frequently this past month hasn't done irreversible damage.