gc83uk's september '13 procedure.

[hellouser]

Hellouser, thanks!

All noted. Quick question for you. The camera I have been using for the past couple of years is just a bog-standard Nikon coolpix.

However in the office I have a samsung camera, I think this is the model

Can you tell me would there be any benefit using the £400 camera over the cheaper Nikon?

I've just took about 20 pics, so I'll upload a couple of the best to the dropbox account in a few mins.

Well specs on paper and actual results with cameras differ greatly. Prime example: Take a Canon 5D MkIII and compare ISO 3200 to that of my Canon 50D at ISO 1600. Even though the 5D MkIII uses a higher ISO level, and should show more noise, the case isnt true and the camera performs significantly better. Its a different sensor altogether. Noise has everything to do with sensor size and how many sensors are crammed into the area. A small camera sensor with 16 megapixels will have 16 million sensors crammed in. when the photo is taken, the sensor heats up and is exposed to light. The more sensors, the more heat and thus the more noise. Thats exactly why camera phones are absolute GARBAGE.

I can't say how that samsung will compare to you Nikon wihtout knowing both exact models, but I would stick to the Nikon: they and Canon have the best cameras hands down. Also, don't rely on the samsung either, you may not always have access to it since its from work.

[gc83uk]

Well specs on paper and actual results with cameras differ greatly. Prime example: Take a Canon 5D MkIII and compare ISO 3200 to that of my Canon 50D at ISO 1600. Even though the 5D MkIII uses a higher ISO level, and should show more noise, the case isnt true and the camera performs significantly better. Its a different sensor altogether. Noise has everything to do with sensor size and how many sensors are crammed into the area. A small camera sensor with 16 megapixels will have 16 million sensors crammed in. when the photo is taken, the sensor heats up and is exposed to light. The more sensors, the more heat and thus the more noise. Thats exactly why camera phones are absolute GARBAGE.

I can't say how that samsung will compare to you Nikon wihtout knowing both exact models, but I would stick to the Nikon: they and Canon have the best cameras hands down. Also, don't rely on the samsung either, you may not always have access to it since its from work.

Well it's my camera, but I tend to use it in work. Could quite easily have it at home for a few weeks.

I've just taken a few pics from slightly further away than what I normally do! I usually get really close the scalp, maybe 4 inches away to ensure good focus on the end result, however when I take a shot from say 8 inches away, I just can't get the clarity I want with this Nikon. Is that down to the megapixels/resolution?

I would much rather take 10 shots from 8 inches away all over my head rather than loads of closer shots. The less shots we have the less complicated the process in my opinion.

The two camera models are:
Nikon Coolpix s3000 vs Samsung Galaxy Camera.

[gc83uk]

Also what I like about the samsung is it can take photos on voice commands, if I should out 'smile' then it takes the pic. I've got a tripod too, so might be a better option doing it like that!

[hellouser]

Well it's my camera, but I tend to use it in work. Could quite easily have it at home for a few weeks.

I've just taken a few pics from slightly further away than what I normally do! I usually get really close the scalp, maybe 4 inches away to ensure good focus on the end result, however when I take a shot from say 8 inches away, I just can't get the clarity I want with this Nikon. Is that down to the megapixels/resolution?

I would much rather take 10 shots from 8 inches away all over my head rather than loads of closer shots. The less shots we have the less complicated the process in my opinion.

The two camera models are:
Nikon Coolpix s3000 vs Samsung Galaxy Camera.

I think I'd go with Nikon regardless, lol. I just don't trust Samsung from a photography standpoint, theyve got far less experience than Nikon and Canon in terms of producing a solid camera.

Resolution/megapixels means nothing. All it does is determine the size of the photo and how much noise there will be depending on the sensor type (CCD sucks compared to CMOS) and the size of the sensor. Of course, always shoot in the largest size possible. Megapixels has just become a marketing term for the masses to believe that the higher the MP count, the better the photos, which is bullshit because the better the sensor and lens, THEN the better the photos get.

Don't get TOO close to your head with the camera either though, as you will notice that things will go blurry a bit quicker the further back they are. This is called 'Bokeh' which is also affected by the aperture in the lens (the opening of it) which will determine how much is in focous. Basically, it looks like this:



Suppose you took a portrait of someones face in a football field using an aperture setting of f/2.8 (the widest possible opening on that Samsung camera you posted). The wider the opening, the more light comes in, but also the quicker things will get out of focus. You can assume that if focused on the nose that would be in focus but the persons ear would be a little OUT of focus, and the football field would be completely blurry.

BUT, if you use a higher aperture setting of say, f/16 or f/22, then pretty much EVERYTHING is in focus, but the opening of the lens is really small, so not a lot of light comes through it and thus you need LOTS of lighitng. Which would be ideal for the purposes of the documentation of the progress with HASCI's method. We need to be able to count all the hairs with CLARITY in mind.

This kind of work is probably very confusing to a newbie photography which is why I suggested hiring a professional and letting them know EXACTLY what we need and what we DONT want to see in the photos.

You could even make a case that this is not for profit and ask if someone could do it pro-bono. Taking these pics for professionals should be a simple task and wont require much time so who knows, maybe there is someone nice enough to help you out? Perhaps offer them a free meal or something. Its not exhausting work, they wouldnt even need to colour correct or anything, just raw photos.

I wish I was there dude, I'd easily document the progress for you.

[gc83uk]

ok thanks for the info. I might try out the samsung tomorrow too, just for comparison sake. I have a drop box account which I'm openly sharing with a few people on here. I've just uploaded some pics to a folder called Test Set.

It also includes the photos which Nigam sent me from Toms case and also a load of older photos I took from my last HST.

The photos in the 'Test' folder are not my best photos, I just wanted to show where i'm up to with recipient and to confirm what I already knew, that the current hair length is too long for any meaningful analysis.

If you want details of the account then let me know.

Oh and feel free to fly over and take the photos or meet me in London on 10th Sept.

[hellouser]

ok thanks for the info. I might try out the samsung tomorrow too, just for comparison sake. I have a drop box account which I'm openly sharing with a few people on here. I've just uploaded some pics to a folder called Test Set.

It also includes the photos which Nigam sent me from Toms case and also a load of older photos I took from my last HST.

The photos in the 'Test' folder are not my best photos, I just wanted to show where i'm up to with recipient and to confirm what I already knew, that the current hair length is too long for any meaningful analysis.

If you want details of the account then let me know.

Oh and feel free to fly over and take the photos or meet me in London on 10th Sept.

I'd love to come down, but that would cost me an arm and a leg.

One question: Can you take photos of the recipient area BEFORE the HST procedure?

[gc83uk]

I'd love to come down, but that would cost me an arm and a leg.

One question: Can you take photos of the recipient area BEFORE the HST procedure?

Login to dropbox, I've just done some of the recipient area.

[Arashi]

! I usually get really close the scalp, maybe 4 inches away to ensure good focus on the end result, however when I take a shot from say 8 inches away, I just can't get the clarity I want with this Nikon. Is that down to the megapixels/resolution?

Agreed that the less shots the better BUT clarity has to be good enough for analysis. I just looked at the test photo's you've shot and I'd love to see just a bit more clarity. If it can't be attained from this distance, then we'll just have to get the camera a bit closer and manage more photo's.

Also the hair is a bit too long. The less overlap hairs have the better so I'm hoping you're willing to shave it down a bit.

[Arashi]

Oh and by the way, you must be really exited !! What a difference with your initial situation man, congratulations ! Can't wait to see the result after your next procedure

[gc83uk]

Oh and by the way, you must be really exited !! What a difference with your initial situation man, congratulations ! Can't wait to see the result after your next procedure

Cheers mate.

Yea I agree on what you've said about those photos. I'm just playing around with those, plus wanted people to see my hairline and old linear scars in my donor, just so people know what we're working with as a whole.

Hair will be same length as original photos. I'll probably shave it tomorrow. I prefer it a bit longer like I have now, but it's the only way to get proper shots.

The only thing that concerns me about having the hair really short is the hairs can sometimes stick together almost, which can sometimes appear as a 1 hair, when infact it could quite easily be 2 hairs. Not much we can do about that though!

[hellouser]

Login to dropbox, I've just done some of the recipient area.

Can you post the link to your dropbox?

[gc83uk]

Can you post the link to your dropbox?

Done

[hellouser]

Let me know once you've got it, cos I'll be deleting this comment.

GOT IT! Thanks!

[Arashi]

The only thing that concerns me about having the hair really short is the hairs can sometimes stick together almost, which can sometimes appear as a 1 hair, when infact it could quite easily be 2 hairs. Not much we can do about that though!

The only thing you can do is to make sure that your skin is as 'dry' as possible before taking the photo's. You could try a skin cleaner product designed for oily skin and after washing just rub it with a towel as dry as possible. It also ensures better photo's since oil on skin causes more light reflections (this I also noticed while taking pictures of my own scalp so I did myself what I just suggested and that worked great).

[hellouser]

The only thing you can do is to make sure that your skin is as 'dry' as possible before taking the photo's. You could try a skin cleaner product designed for oily skin and after washing just rub it with a towel as dry as possible. It also ensures better photo's since oil on skin causes more light reflections (this I also noticed while taking pictures of my own scalp so I did myself what I just suggested and that worked great).

Perhaps an exfoliating cream before showering? Removes the top most layer of useless skin and showering will reduce sebum from the scalp for about 30 or so minutes?