Scorpion was basically right

[fred970]

I'll reply to that with a picture of my hair. Remember that I am 23 years old.

[25 going on 65]

Now you're just being delusional. You *really* think going bald in your early twenties won't affect which girls like you, and to what degree they do so?

Yeah this is the problem. It can be an issue for some women right through their 30s or even beyond.

A few NW levels can be the difference between taking a girl home & watching her run back to her friends giggling. Some clubs and bars can be like high school

I'll reply to that with a picture of my hair. Remember that I am 23 years old.

Hard to tell from that 1 picture but your skullshape actually looks pretty solid. Consider yourself lucky because most of us do not get that.

[BigThinker]

I'll reply to that with a picture of my hair. Remember that I am 23 years old.

Dude, you have a great head shape. I would trade so fast.

[Tracy C]

I'm NW2 in my early twenties and think my life is over.

Many adult men are Norwood III and that does not stop them from living a full and happy life. Norwood II is nothing unless you are transgendered and plan to transition to female someday.

I can't take minox because I read on the forums that it causes wrinkles.

This is largely fear mongering. Many women need to use Minoxidil. If this actually was a common side effect women would never touch the stuff - or even go anywhere near it.

Hair loss won't prevent you from living a fulfilling life or from dating.

Men have been living long happy fulfilling lives for thousands of years in spite of their hair loss. It has been done, I can still be done and it will continue to be done.

[adam k]

I'll reply to that with a picture of my hair. Remember that I am 23 years old.

Karl Pilkington is that you?

You have a good head shape.

[Tracy C]

I'll reply to that with a picture of my hair. Remember that I am 23 years old.

You look recoverable. Being so young dramatically increases your chances of recovering some lost hair. Though you are not likely to get back all you have lost - and it will take a pretty long time.

Are you treating it? If you are using the FDA approved treatments, you will likely know how much you can recover after about 18 months of treatment.

[fred970]

I've been using minoxidil since I was 20. Yes it should be worse than that. I can't take finasteride (I have had gynecomastia surgery 9 months ago) and I have my first FUE scheduled in February.

[25 going on 65]

I've been using minoxidil since I was 20. Yes it should be worse than that. I can't take finasteride (I have had gynecomastia surgery 9 months ago) and I have my first FUE scheduled in February.

FUE without fin is risky. Have you considered taking fin with estrogen blockers?

[adam k]

FUE without fin is risky. Have you considered taking fin with estrogen blockers?

You do NOT want to be on aromatase inhibitors or SERMS. Even those guys on a cycle take it as much as is needed and get the f off them. Taking Fin is a lifelong commitment and you SHOULD NOT be taking AIs or SERMS long term.

[25 going on 65]

You do NOT want to be on aromatase inhibitors or SERMS. Even those guys on a cycle take it as much as is needed and get the f off them. Taking Fin is a lifelong commitment and you SHOULD NOT be taking AIs or SERMS long term.

Unfortunate.
Alternatives?

[Assemblage23]

Unfortunate.
Alternatives?

RU but it's a hassle man. I'd do it if I couldnt take fin.

[Dan26]

RU but it's a hassle man. I'd do it if I couldnt take fin.

Not that big of a hassel especially if you use liquid minox. Just chuck er in there!

[Coke]

Having had a horeshoe by the time I was your age I would completely disagree. Women are vain. Extremely vain. Much more so than men. You will learn this as you grow older and become wiser.

I read:

Hair loss won't prevent you from living a fulfilling life or from dating. Tracy is the only one right here.

[drybone]

Having had a horeshoe by the time I was your age I would completely disagree. Women are vain. Extremely vain. Much more so than men. You will learn this as you grow older and become wiser.

We all want power and control. To whatever degree that makes us comfortable. It comes in various forms but the most productive for men is what will make you desirable to women and what will make you respected and even envied by other men.

The same is in reverse for women.

Height, muscle tone body fat, the way we dress and our careers go a long way. So does a full head of hair. These are the main ones women tend to screen us on. They cant demand we drop our pants or they would do that too.

So we get judged on these superficial qualities right away. We cant even get our foot in the door unless we pass this test.

Then the things that really matter in our lives take over. Our belief system. Our life goals . Our ability to care for others. Etc........

So Tracy is right that if we are just decent guys,shower and have a job, we will get laid and be able to mate.

The problem is that the women we attract based on those characteristics alone may not be the ones we want. We may want a wider selection than that.Same goes for the ladies. They bend over backwards in a never ending pursuit to become as pretty as possible and desirable as possible to men.

The more men they attract, the more other women will envy them and invariably have to suck up to them. They spend BILLIONS of dollars per year in this never ending pursuit.

And spend all their time DENYING that they do it.

Yet, I am sure most of us have dated women like this, and they utterly ruined it by being complete biotches . This made them useless to us. Regardless of how gorgeous they were.

So here is what i propose.

Be as good looking as we can on the outside. Spare no expense. If this means propecia, minox , toppik , dermatch and hair transplants, so be it.

If it means hair toppers, wigs , systems or the hair tattoo , more power to you.

But Tracys point is undeniable. You can have all this and if you are a butt hole, you wasted your entire effort. So make sure we are great people on the inside too.

[25 going on 65]

Someone liking how you look is the ultimate cheat in life. When a woman gets neurochem rushes just from looking at your face, all your interactions with her become colored by that....the stuff you can get away with in this situation is insane.

This is the most legitimate thing I have ever posted on this forum.


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