Anyone tried igrow?

[NeedHairASAP]

The lasers used to remove tattoos and for removing unwanted hair are very similar to each other and are much much stronger than the "cold" lasers used in this helmet and the laser comb. Using these super strong lasers that are meant for destruction to attempt to promote hair growth would likely be very counterproductive.

Typical tracy post....uninformed and illogical

1. They are different. Tattoo is stronger than hair which is stronger than your useless laser helmet

2. How you can be dermarolling and confused about how damage can promote hair growth is beyond me

3. Somebody get her the laser patent link

[Tracy C]

Typical tracy post....uninformed and illogical.

That statement above is far from the truth.

[StayThick]

Tracy may not always agree with most of us, but why is everyone so mean to her? She's entitled to her opinion on any topic posted on this forum like the rest of us.

Don't get all the hostility towards her on here. Dudes need to chill and just focus on helping each other out.

[HARIRI]

Looks interesting and affordable. Its exactly like LaserCap but available for purchase and personal use while LaserCap is used by physicians only. However its definitely better than HairMax hand held laser comb which is pain in the ass and boring when used.

[PayDay]

Tracy may not always agree with most of us, but why is everyone so mean to her? She's entitled to her opinion on any topic posted on this forum like the rest of us.

Don't get all the hostility towards her on here. Dudes need to chill and just focus on helping each other out.

StayThick is right! Tracy is entitled to her opinion just like everyone else, and in many cases she is the only one who is offering logical advice. Stop this BS already and act like a man. Show some common decency and courtesy when addressing people. Tracy seems to live in the real world and gives honest, and from I have seen very accurate advice. If you don't like what she has to say, just ignore it and stop being such a bully.

[NeedHairASAP]

Traceys "opinions", that she states as facts, are both wrong, illogical, and uninformed. I have evidence for my "opinion" (which is what were calling declarative statements now?)

Statement 1: tattoo and hair lasers are the same.

This is not only not an opinion. Its easily verified wrong.


Statement 2: wounding would be counterproductive

Ill give it to her, this sounds intuitive. However, as many of us know, this is wrong. Wounding does help hair growth. Which wounding is best? Laser or dermaroller or other unknown method? We dont know.


All these things were alluddd to in my post and instead of inquiring, tracey corrects without even looking into it. Then everybody jumps on me like "that's just, like, an opinion, man"

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/72075/1.html

[Tracy C]

Statement 1: tattoo and hair lasers are the same.

I did not say that fool. You are either unable to read and comprehend or you are lying for the sake of giving me crap.

Statement 2: wounding would be counterproductive

I did not say that fool. You are either unable to read and comprehend or you are lying for the sake of giving me crap.

Pull your head out of your butt.

[Tracy C]

Then everybody jumps on me...

You deserve it. You re-worded what I said for the sole purpose of creating a false reason to claim I am "uninformed" and give me crap. I call you a fool because that is exactly what you are and you deserve the title. I am a whole lot more informed than you are and it will take very long time before you could get even close to catching up with me.

[HARIRI]

Guys enough argues, lets get back to the igrow laser cap thing please.

[DesperateOne]

So the device has been out for some time now, what is the final say, does it work yes or no. Is there people getting good results? Or is it just some fancy snake oil. Has anyone wondered why would people think snake oil would be of any use? I was just curious if there was ever any truth behind it.

[Tracy C]

Or is it just some fancy snake oil.

Since some people, mostly women, do benefit from LLLT, it isn't snake oil. The only people who benefit from snake oil are the snake oil merchants.

[doke]

Since some people, mostly women, do benefit from LLLT, it isn't snake oil. The only people who benefit from snake oil are the snake oil merchants.

I have the lux 9 hairmax rechargable and spencer forrest x5 and i found that they do help with body of hair and also used in conjuction with topicals are fantastic.
We have clinics in uk where celeb sportsman have regrown hair with the expensive laser hoods they use and some even combine hairmax with minox use.
Omg is the laser god at world hair loss and he advises stronger higher powered laset helmets which i think he can build for you or give help in making your own cheaper than hairmax.
Im not sure about igrow as its a bit pricey looks ok though and there is the rolls royce hair regrowth laser helmets at konftec which i think is better than igrow as its a good company so i here and there again quite expensive but its what i would choose next as you can relax in your chair and let the laser do its work.

[DesperateOne]

I have the lux 9 hairmax rechargable and spencer forrest x5 and i found that they do help with body of hair and also used in conjuction with topicals are fantastic.
We have clinics in uk where celeb sportsman have regrown hair with the expensive laser hoods they use and some even combine hairmax with minox use.
Omg is the laser god at world hair loss and he advises stronger higher powered laset helmets which i think he can build for you or give help in making your own cheaper than hairmax.
Im not sure about igrow as its a bit pricey looks ok though and there is the rolls royce hair regrowth laser helmets at konftec which i think is better than igrow as its a good company so i here and there again quite expensive but its what i wwould choose next as you can relax in your chair and let the laser do its work.

Where would I be able to find out how can I build one of those high powered laser helmets. Does that guy have a DIY website? I have build electronic stuff in the past so I think I can pull it off. It does make sense that more power is needed, usually they always give the smallest dose for safety but not efficacy.

[doke]

Where would I be able to find out how can I build one of those high powered laser helmets. Does that guy have a DIY website? I have build electronic stuff in the past so I think I can pull it off. It does make sense that more power is needed, usually they always give the smallest dose for safety but not efficacy.

if you have not heard of overmachogrande you have not heard anything hes been about on hair forums many years anyway he has info on building your own helmet if your electrical minded search for omg laser helmets and you should find his site i also think he has his own hairloss website which is very good at http://www.worldhairloss.org

des check out his videos on you tube he makes his own benonite clay for cleaning the scalp i also make my own which is easy to make with apple cider vin and some tea tree oil i think he has a helmet on you tube as well as on his site.

[Tracy C]

Where would I be able to find out how can I build one of those high powered laser helmets.

I have seen quite a few youtube videos that describe how to make one - and I myself am more than capable of doing so. However the laser I am using is the older corded 9-laser version Hairmax. I've been using it since November of 2007 and as long as it continues to work I do not intend to bother with anything else. If it does stop working though, I will likely consider the igrow as a replacement since it has not been FDA cleared.

It does make sense that more power is needed, usually they always give the smallest dose for safety but not efficacy.

Keep in mind that in spite of what is often said in hair loss forums. including this one, manufacturers of these laser devices need to prove both safety and efficacy in order to achieve FDA clearance.