Worst Advice to Give

[Notcoolanymore]

"Your hair looks great, enjoy life" "Stop worrying, enjoy your youth"

I hear this all the time. You get these young guys come here that know they are losing their hair and asking for help. And they end up getting advice that all is good and not to worry about it. It doesn't matter how young you are, you know when you are losing your hair. I knew in my early twenties when my hair was going to shit.

Just because these young guys are in better shape then many of us in here doesn't mean that all is good and that they should delay treatment because they are not a NW3 or worse. We need to stop comparing these guys to ourselves and thinking that just because they are in better shape than we are, that they should delay treating their hair loss. Putting off treatment is almost the worst thing you can do, since most of what you lose you will likely never get back.

I have seen many guys around here get crap because they are at the beginning stages of hair loss and they are doing everything they can to stop it. If I could go back in time I would do the same and maybe still have most of my hair today.

[Dan26]

Agree'd.

Once you dip below NW1, kitchen sink regimen must be employed.

[25 going on 65]

AMEN. Can we sticky that??

[BigThinker]

"Your hair looks great, enjoy life" "Stop worrying, enjoy your youth"

I hear this all the time. You get these young guys come here that know they are losing their hair and asking for help. And they end up getting advice that all is good and not to worry about it. It doesn't matter how young you are, you know when you are losing your hair. I knew in my early twenties when my hair was going to shit.

Just because these young guys are in better shape then many of us in here doesn't mean that all is good and that they should delay treatment because they are not a NW3 or worse. We need to stop comparing these guys to ourselves and thinking that just because they are in better shape than we are, that they should delay treating their hair loss. Putting off treatment is almost the worst thing you can do, since most of what you lose you will likely never get back.

I have seen many guys around here get crap because they are at the beginning stages of hair loss and they are doing everything they can to stop it. If I could go back in time I would do the same and maybe still have most of my hair today.

Exactly. There's people who just ignore anyone less than NW2. There's anti-antiandrogen fear-mongers. Many of which tell people just to use minox and/or keto. I find it really hard to believe anyone can be successful with just one or both of those two. Certainly better than nothing, but not being on an antiandrogen is asinine.

What irks me the worst is when my family members and friends told me I didn't look like I was balding at all though. Sure, it provided temporary relief, but at what cost? Exponentially greater anxiety and stress down the road as my hair continued to deteriorate and certainly some hair lost forever.

Agree'd.

Once you dip below NW1, kitchen sink regimen must be employed.

Wish I would have done that. Waiting for NW2 before fin and now pushing NW3 before adding dut and minox. So many months and so much hair wasted.

I just tell new members to order fin ASAP. Usually I tell them to get their blood levels checked just to be PC, but if I could do it all again I'd order fin at the first signs, start minox right away, and switch to a natural shampoo. I wouldn't even waste money on blood work and Dr. visits.

[recession]

I'm one of those young guys, and if I was just an NW2 I would be fine with it. I'm an NW3.

[mynameisrich]

Wow, bravo.
I 100% agree with this. Not to insult anybody because I always appreciate anybody who has taken the time out of their day to discuss my matters, but there is nothing more isolating than when somebody tells you there is no problem.
I'm not delusional, figures don't lie, and when you can compare before and after pictures/videos, and realise that you've lost half an inch over just a few years, and your hairline is looking chewed up to shit, at 23 years old, you have to question what more can you do besides pop some pills and put greasy liquid on your hair twice a day.

[Notcoolanymore]

Yeah, people think they are helping you by sparing your feelings, but all they are doing is contributing to more time wasted. Time is of the essence when it comes to treating hair loss.

[Diesel15]

Yeah, people think they are helping you by sparing your feelings, but all they are doing is contributing to more time wasted. Time is of the essence when it comes to treating hair loss.

This exactly. I can't understand why everyone tells me it's not bad and there's nothing to worry about. I can see my freaking scalp through my paper thin hair people!! I delayed treatment longer than I should have because I thought I was being paranoyed based on "objective" opinions. Terrible decision.

[DannyBoyy7]

If i could go back in time to talk to my younger self i would say "stop looking in the mirror and shave the stupid hair style off you are bald deal with it"...but thats just me.

[Notcoolanymore]

If i could go back in time to talk to my younger self i would say "stop looking in the mirror and shave the stupid hair style off you are bald deal with it"...but thats just me.

I apologize if I am confusing you with somebody else, but if I remember correctly your hair loss experience is totally different than the majority of men. You didn't see hair loss as a problem because you had family members that were bald. You saw being bald as "normal". It seems like you found hair as more of a problem than anything. You accepted shaving it at a young age. Most guys do not see things that way. We like ourselves with hair, don't like what we look like without hair, would rather have hair than not have it. Most people who have hair loss, even ones who have accepted it, would be interested in reversing their hair loss if they could. You on the other hand would probably still walk around bald. I give you credit for accepting your hair loss and shaving your head, but most guys are not prepared to do what you did. You probably look good with a shaved head, most look like shit. You see being bald as looking normal, most people feel they look normal with a head of hair.

[DannyBoyy7]

I apologize if I am confusing you with somebody else, but if I remember correctly your hair loss experience is totally different than the majority of men. You didn't see hair loss as a problem because you had family members that were bald. You saw being bald as "normal". It seems like you found hair as more of a problem than anything. You accepted shaving it at a young age. Most guys do not see things that way. We like ourselves with hair, don't like what we look like without hair, would rather have hair than not have it. Most people who have hair loss, even ones who have accepted it, would be interested in reversing their hair loss if they could. You on the other hand would probably still walk around bald. I give you credit for accepting your hair loss and shaving your head, but most guys are not prepared to do what you did. You probably look good with a shaved head, most look like shit. You see being bald as looking normal, most people feel they look normal with a head of hair.

Yeah that was me...i also said i worried from 16 to 18 about it...i hid it cause i was worried i would be bullied i was already treated like shit at the time when i realised i was going bald...even though i thought everything you said at the end off the day i didnt want to be bullied (i never was)...as you know not everyone had the same mindset as i did about it so i thought people would take the mick...at the point of my worrying i wasnt bald yet it wasnt until it was obvious i was going bald (and i looked in the mirror like i mentioned above) i thought **** it and cut it...this is when i grew balls and never looked back...i never cared for my hair when i had it so there wasnt any reason to miss it...i think of bald being normal cause where i am from they are everywhere so of course growing up seeing them im gonna think its the norm...which i still do to me its just hair.

[Notcoolanymore]

Yeah that was me...i also said i worried from 16 to 18 about it...i hid it cause i was worried i would be bullied i was already treated like shit at the time when i realised i was going bald...even though i thought everything you said at the end off the day i didnt want to be bullied (i never was)...as you know not everyone had the same mindset as i did about it so i thought people would take the mick...at the point of my worrying i wasnt bald yet it wasnt until it was obvious i was going bald (and i looked in the mirror like i mentioned above) i thought **** it and cut it...this is when i grew balls and never looked back...i never cared for my hair when i had it so there wasnt any reason to miss it...i think of bald being normal cause where i am from they are everywhere so of course growing up seeing them im gonna think its the norm...which i still do to me its just hair.

Again, much respect for your decision to say screw it and shave it all off. You probably think you look pretty good, and that right there is huge. If I thought I looked good with a shaved head, I would do it. I don't really like my hair buzzed, so I am sure I would look like crap if I took a razor to it.

[DannyBoyy7]

Again, much respect for your decision to say screw it and shave it all off. You probably think you look pretty good, and that right there is huge. If I thought I looked good with a shaved head, I would do it. I don't really like my hair buzzed, so I am sure I would look like crap if I took a razor to it.

Well i dont mind the look at all the worse bit i suppose is the crown area on my head its a bit pointy (i show you a pic to give you a example) but apart from that im fine with it...the thing is with me i just cant see myself worrying about something i cant change and cause i see my balding,bald looks for a whle now i just got used to it...i mean when i was between 16 and 18 one of my fears was the horseshoe look...now i go around with it most of the time (im a lazy shaver) i dont mean like george from seinfield look though more like jason statham length.

I cant see myself any other way...i even had a dream the other day that i was back at school and i was bald and i saw others balding and i was annoyed cause i didnt "stand out" anymore lol...even in my dreams i dont mind being bald either.

http://www.tnainsider.com/uploads/f92c30a2ca262920778ee00669f163a4.png

In the link the wrestler has the same pointy bit as me.

[akai]

Before I got treatment and my crown was thinning I asked my sisters about it. They said "yeah it's a little thin but girls don't care, you can always shave it if it gets bad, blah blah". Then I asked them "Would you have ended up with your husbands if they were bald or severely balding when you first met?" The real answer is "no" but they said "of course". Then I reminded them they've both literally never dated a bald or balding guy. Hell, my ex-gf's mom was recently divorced and in her late-50s and one of her criteria for a new man was a full head of hair. This is a woman in her 50s looking to date men in their 50s and 60s. Also heard a group of former co-workers talking about their recent online dating profiles and two of them said balding was a deal breaker. Obviously not all women are like that but if you can't pull off a shaved head it's going to affect your attractiveness. It sucks, but it is what it is.

If you can pull a it off, more power to you. I have a friend who pulls it off flawlessly. He's also a 6'4" former college tight end and has a strong jawline/"alpha" characteristics. For people like me that look much better with hair getting on finasteride and Nizoral early is the only option (until better treatments come out).

[Notcoolanymore]

For people like me that look much better with hair getting on finasteride and Nizoral early is the only option (until better treatments come out).

For most of us, this is the best option.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but for the most part women would prefer not to settle for a bald guy. This is just the way it is. Don't fall for the politically correct BS: good personality, good sense of humor, etc, that most women will say they want. The fact of the matter is most will choose a guy with hair over one without it most of the time. Just observe who the higher norwoods are with next time you are out in public. Most of the time they are with the homely looking women.