This is my plan....

[sausage]

After researching a lot, and finding out what can be accomplished for a person in my state ie, a NW6 with crap donor.....

I have gone through many options, changing my mind, going round in circles but in reality I was limited and needed to get creative.......

So the plan is to get 2000 grafts transplanted into the hairline and temples which would be similar to this guys (I am strictly referring to the red dots, the transplanted area):



Then, seeing as I am a NW6 and that this would look ridiculous if I just had that done...........I would next get Micro-pigmentation to blend into the this frontal region and to cover the whole scalp.

The idea being to have a natural looking hairline, IMO Micro-pigmentation hairlines often look clearly unnatural and I want to avoid that. Also, the texture and 3D aspect is a bonus. From what I have seen Micro-pigmentation blends in well to the hair on the sides and back of the head so I would hope it blends well into the transplanted hairs at the front.

This is not set in stone, but my latest idea, I have yet to fully convince myself, I have still to work what I am happy to pay, whether it will look good enough to go ahead with, I am going to see a guy with Micro-pigmentation soon, so will get an idea of how natural it looks, I may be convinced that I don't actually need the hair transplant and that it looks natural enough tattooed.

[UK_]

This is a good plan if you are tall. Could you not grow the hair out long and then use toppik for the back and have a perfectly natural hair line?

Forgive if this is what you intend as ATM I assume you will be buzzing all over.

[sausage]

This is a good plan if you are tall. Could you not grow the hair out long and then use toppik for the back and have a perfectly natural hair line?

Forgive if this is what you intend as ATM I assume you will be buzzing all over.

True, height is a bonus.

I am about medium height, would be nice to be an inch or so taller, maybe I'll have to wear some high heels , all in all I am glad I am not a short-arse.

The good thing is that I am taller than the vast majority of girls.

I am not totally sure what you mean by use toppik and grow the hair out long. I don't know the ins and outs of Toppik use.......concealers as a whole do not appeal to me. I have virtually no hair on the top of my head, so any concealer would not be able to cling on to any hair.

Yes I will be buzzing to grade 0, which is pretty damn short, so hopefully that will look natural enough.......I don't really want to be wet shaving.

[northeastguy]

Sausage, can you post a couple photos?

[sausage]

You know what a NW6 looks like don't you?

[sausage]

Currently I am going to wait until I see Micropigmentation face to face before deciding anything.

I am still skeptical of it.

[northeastguy]

You know what a NW6 looks like don't you?

Since there are various levels of a NW6 I'd say no, I don't. Are you a 2" fringe of fine low density hair or do you have 5 inche of thick high density. the statement of "crap donor" means shit because everyones perception is different. Hence the request for photos.
If your responses are going to be condensending, don't waste our time seeking advise.

[sausage]

Since there are various levels of a NW6 I'd say no, I don't. Are you a 2" fringe of fine low density hair or do you have 5 inche of thick high density. the statement of "crap donor" means shit because everyones perception is different. Hence the request for photos.
If your responses are going to be condensending, don't waste our time seeking advise.

Calm down, it wasn't supposed to be condescending, I am sorry you are offended.

I have very sparse hair remaining over the top of the head......very sparse, so I just have a clear horseshoe, the sparse hair will help slightly to blend in with the SMP and add a natural effect.

[wylie]

Can you name one reputable SMP tech? I can't. Not sure I would trust my head to any of them unless they are doing strip scars, and then I have my doubts as to whether the result will justify the cost.

You have enough hair for a hairline, and your other option is beard hair. If you don't want beard hair, you could do your hairline and wear a yarmulke.

http://www.kippah.com/itemlist.asp?cat=Shul+Yarmulkes

[northeastguy]

LOL... Good one Wylie. if it were only that easy.

Thanks Sausage.... The only person I would ever consider right now is Milena Lardi in Italy. If that means taking a trip to Italy then so be it. Until someone here in the US has the reputation she has with the results to back it up I'd only trust her hands. And more importantly, its not permanent. No changing colors, no smearing or smudging, if you don't like the look, your not stuck forever.
That being said, I think your on to something I have thought about for a long time. for those who are in your norwood class. However, I would approach it differently. the key is to keep the 3d elusion throughout the scalp, not just the hairline. Personally, I would focus FUE on the hairline only then create a uniform density of FUE through the rest of the scalp using a combination of scalp and beard hair. The SMP would not be used in the first cm of the hair line but increase darkness and volumn towards the back as not to draw attention. The SMP would also help in the donor area to blend any scaring or dotting you may get.
Keep in mind, your committing to a 0-1 guard the optimal being .5. Basically the 5 oclock shadow look. Between the FUE and SMP it would both look AND feel like real hair. It has to be a perfect balance of the 2.

[35YrsAfter]

LOL... Good one Wylie. if it were only that easy.

Thanks Sausage.... The only person I would ever consider right now is Milena Lardi in Italy. If that means taking a trip to Italy then so be it. Until someone here in the US has the reputation she has with the results to back it up I'd only trust her hands. And more importantly, its not permanent. No changing colors, no smearing or smudging, if you don't like the look, your not stuck forever.
That being said, I think your on to something I have thought about for a long time. for those who are in your norwood class. However, I would approach it differently. the key is to keep the 3d elusion throughout the scalp, not just the hairline. Personally, I would focus FUE on the hairline only then create a uniform density of FUE through the rest of the scalp using a combination of scalp and beard hair. The SMP would not be used in the first cm of the hair line but increase darkness and volumn towards the back as not to draw attention. The SMP would also help in the donor area to blend any scaring or dotting you may get.
Keep in mind, your committing to a 0-1 guard the optimal being .5. Basically the 5 oclock shadow look. Between the FUE and SMP it would both look AND feel like real hair. It has to be a perfect balance of the 2.

We had a Norwood 6 patient in who had SMP. As long as his head was shaved, it looked natural until you got up close and gave his head a critical look. He recently had Dr. Cole place approx. 2100 grafts in the SMP area that will make the SMP result look much more natural.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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[northeastguy]

It's so important to have a mix of real hair with the smp otherwise something looks off. The other factor is length. Even a 1 guard is too long. Boy it would be great to see more of these type cases for viewing. I really think it has a place for NW6 patients that have limited donor and good beard supply.

[35YrsAfter]

It's so important to have a mix of real hair with the smp otherwise something looks off. The other factor is length. Even a 1 guard is too long. Boy it would be great to see more of these type cases for viewing. I really think it has a place for NW6 patients that have limited donor and good beard supply.

The limited SMP work I have seen come through our office appeared that the artist did a decent job matching the surrounding hair color. The SMP dots I have seen are approx. four times the diameter of the surrounding hair shafts. This is what makes this technique look unnatural in my opinion. Artificial hair fiber implants have been tried with disastrous results including major infections. Perhaps someone will take the 3d printing approach where hair fibers are printed using a patient's compatible tissue. Anchoring the hair in place could present a big challenge. Perhaps there could be a way to anchor the hair in place similar in concept to a tooth staying put that had root canal surgery.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office

[sausage]

LOL... Good one Wylie. if it were only that easy.

Thanks Sausage.... The only person I would ever consider right now is Milena Lardi in Italy. If that means taking a trip to Italy then so be it. Until someone here in the US has the reputation she has with the results to back it up I'd only trust her hands. And more importantly, its not permanent. No changing colors, no smearing or smudging, if you don't like the look, your not stuck forever.
That being said, I think your on to something I have thought about for a long time. for those who are in your norwood class. However, I would approach it differently. the key is to keep the 3d elusion throughout the scalp, not just the hairline. Personally, I would focus FUE on the hairline only then create a uniform density of FUE through the rest of the scalp using a combination of scalp and beard hair. The SMP would not be used in the first cm of the hair line but increase darkness and volumn towards the back as not to draw attention. The SMP would also help in the donor area to blend any scaring or dotting you may get.
Keep in mind, your committing to a 0-1 guard the optimal being .5. Basically the 5 oclock shadow look. Between the FUE and SMP it would both look AND feel like real hair. It has to be a perfect balance of the 2.

I am not one to rush into anything, I have been balding for 12 years and I have done nothing about it. I like to think I am not one to make a stupid decision. Considering this SMP seems bloody stupid but if I can be sure I can get a good result with the right people then it may be worth it.

From research it does worry me that the 'HIS' clinic 'practitioners' don't have a clue, I constantly see blatant errors with their work, stuff that should not happen if someone had some common sense, such as too dark choices of pigments, too dense, stupid positioning of hairlines.....one guy...you could clearly see where his original hairline was from when he had hair but he had a solid SMP hairline tattooed an inch or so above his original hairline....I mean what the feck?


Milena Lardi is a consideration but I have yet to have been wowed by her work, the photos Jotronic has uploaded on here have not impressed me. The photos on her website have not impressed me.

Thing is, as a person with an artistic/design background who pays a great attention to detail, I cannot see why consistent good quality SMP cannot be achieved, you just need someone with the skill, common sense, and knowledge of how a male head of hair works.

Look at this guy, an English footballer, he is a rarity in that he loves having a buzzed head. He is a good looking guy and it looks great on him........I know this is NOT SMP, this is his real hair buzzed very short.......but I cannot see why something that looks like this cannot be achieved:



Anyone out there think they can achieve a natural looking result like that......let me know, my money's waiting for you.