A Hair “Cloning/Multiplication” Breakthrough from China (?)

[Henkeh91]

I don't know if this have been posted before.

http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateHairCloningFromChina8-13.html

[Boldy]

I don't know if this have been posted before.
http://www.hairloss-research.org/Upd...China8-13.html

Nothing new about it:


We also designed a novel HF transplantation device that includes scissors at the bottom to dissect the HF bulb when obtaining HF from the donor. The remaining HF bulbs were able to regrow intact HFs in the donor sites. As well, the upper site of HFs can be used as hair graft transplants by the method above. Thus, our HF fragment transplantation method is a new development in unlimited hair follicle transplant.


this is what nigams does, already. On tom and wesley for example. he calls it Doubling.

[Henkeh91]

Nothing new about it:


We also designed a novel HF transplantation device that includes scissors at the bottom to dissect the HF bulb when obtaining HF from the donor. The remaining HF bulbs were able to regrow intact HFs in the donor sites. As well, the upper site of HFs can be used as hair graft transplants by the method above. Thus, our HF fragment transplantation method is a new development in unlimited hair follicle transplant.


this is what nigams does, already. On tom and wesley for example. he calls it Doubling.

Thanks for the quick answer Boldy!

Sounds good, didn't know that!

[Boldy]

Thanks for the quick answer Boldy!

Sounds good, didn't know that!

your welcome



However, we need to wait 6 months +- for their results, before we can give a good answer on the success rate, something that a selective group of people does not seem to understand.

[nickk]

Boldy Do you think plucked hairs could be dipped in the stem cell solution you are working on then implanted into the scalp. The plucked hairs have a small amount of stem cells from the donor area clinging to the root that could act as a seed for the stem cell solution.

The plucked donor hair always grows back so there would be unlimited donor hair. Plucked hairs have grown before but not consistent. The new stem cell mixture might cluster to the plucked hair and start growing.

[Boldy]

Boldy Do you think plucked hairs could be dipped in the stem cell solution you are working on then implanted into the scalp. The plucked hairs have a small amount of stem cells from the donor area clinging to the root that could act as a seed for the stem cell solution.

The plucked donor hair always grows back so there would be unlimited donor hair. Plucked hairs have grown before but not consistent. The new stem cell mixture might cluster to the plucked hair and start growing.

Hey man, Dr. Cole have showed 10-20% success with plucked hairs, that contained root cells. so yes its possible . and supporting these plucked hairs with fresh isolated body hair cells(dermal, ors/bulge cells, can yet again increase the success rate.

Supporting this process with growth factors, should yield a even higher success rate. But this is al theory, until it someone grabs his balls and does it. the most clinics are so well paid, that there is no single need to improve or try new methods. the "Business" is running well already.


There is so much information and proven studies on the net, that can improve the current way of treatments, however ht docs, play it safe, and stay with oldschool fue's, at least most of them.

[brunobald]

Boldy do you see HT clinics going the same way as laser eye surgery in terms of the prices coming down as time goes by. I remember laser surgery costing thousands per eye, now you can get both eyes lasered for hundreds. I guess it would depended on how HT technology advances and wether it can take some of the manual labour and skill out of the procedure. Things like the fue robot are starting to do this already.

[Boldy]

Boldy do you see HT clinics going the same way as laser eye surgery in terms of the prices coming down as time goes by. I remember laser surgery costing thousands per eye, now you can get both eyes lasered for hundreds. I guess it would depended on how HT technology advances and wether it can take some of the manual labour and skill out of the procedure. Things like the fue robot are starting to do this already.

I'm not sure about prices, I'm more focused on the technical part.

But I do think that Ht surgeons do fear their jobs, if there is a breakthrough on the market.

with that I mean:
1 A drug, that reverses hairloss, or
2 Cell therapy with high yield, that reaches the market.

I would not be surprised if companies(yes even some accounts on this forum, trying to delay such happenings, in most nasty ways), its a conflict of interest. I think we can think of 1 example here on this forum..


when 1 of the 2 reach the market, ht prices will go down.

for now, it does not matter what they charge. demand is high enough, and there is lack for better options.

[hellouser]

Hey man, Dr. Cole have showed 10-20% success with plucked hairs, that contained root cells. so yes its possible . and supporting these plucked hairs with fresh isolated body hair cells(dermal, ors/bulge cells, can yet again increase the success rate.

Supporting this process with growth factors, should yield a even higher success rate. But this is al theory, until it someone grabs his balls and does it. the most clinics are so well paid, that there is no single need to improve or try new methods. the "Business" is running well already.


There is so much information and proven studies on the net, that can improve the current way of treatments, however ht docs, play it safe, and stay with oldschool fue's, at least most of them.

What is this 'stem cell solution' ??????

[Boldy]

What is this 'stem cell solution' ??????

Hell,

You could at least try to be more pressie, what do you mean?

if you are talking about fresh isolated body hair cells, then the answer is in the same line( dermal cells (messenchymal cells), ors/bulge cells).

this process, does not require culture, or other modifications, and should be legal in all countries .. Just fresh isolated cells.

Btw, 1 questionmark, should be enough, don't you think

[hellouser]

Hell,

You could at least try to be more pressie, what do you mean?

if you are talking about fresh isolated body hair cells, then the answer is in the same line( dermal cells (messenchymal cells), ors/bulge cells).

this process, does not require culture, or other modifications, and should be legal in all countries .. Just fresh isolated cells.

Btw, 1 questionmark, should be enough, don't you think

It was in regards to this comment by Nick:

Boldy Do you think plucked hairs could be dipped in the stem cell solution you are working on then implanted into the scalp.

It sounds as if 'stem cell solution' is like some kind of over the counter bottle of stem cells that we use wherever the hell we want.

[veca]

Hell,

You could at least try to be more pressie, what do you mean?

if you are talking about fresh isolated body hair cells, then the answer is in the same line( dermal cells (messenchymal cells), ors/bulge cells).

this process, does not require culture, or other modifications, and should be legal in all countries .. Just fresh isolated cells.

Btw, 1 questionmark, should be enough, don't you think

Boldy see you're in a mood to answer questions ... :-) A couple of days ago, I asked you about the safety of the procedure by Dr. Nigam. You gave me a good answer in the sense that there is no one medication that is safe and that you're right. I am planning to go to the Dr. Nigam in January, and most of all I fear side effects. What is the possibility to get cancer as a side effect?

[Boldy]

Boldy see you're in a mood to answer questions ... :-) A couple of days ago, I asked you about the safety of the procedure by Dr. Nigam. You gave me a good answer in the sense that there is no one medication that is safe and that you're right. I am planning to go to the Dr. Nigam in January, and most of all I fear side effects. What is the possibility to get cancer as a side effect?

haha, well, I think I think I'm to attracted to the "experimentals" that I know from it can be the cure sooner or later..

to your question, I don't dare to give an answer. since I know even the most safe widely used drugs, can be dangerous for some!
only thing I can do for my self is relay on studies, and trials and that is, that culture of mesenchymal cells, did not show mutations, even after 30-90 passages. (each passage is 7-10 days culture), most companies don't go further than 4-6 passages, which gives you enough cells.

[nickk]

Boldy--Do you think you could take the plucked hair root with the clinging donor stem cells and put them in the dermal stem cell solution (the one that takes 6 weeks multiply). The hair root could act as a proto-hair for the dermal cells to grow around. At the end of 6 weeks the proto hair could be implanted into the scalp.

[veca]

haha, well, I think I think I'm to attracted to the "experimentals" that I know from it can be the cure sooner or later..

to your question, I don't dare to give an answer. since I know even the most safe widely used drugs, can be dangerous for some!
only thing I can do for my self is relay on studies, and trials and that is, that culture of mesenchymal cells, did not show mutations, even after 30-90 passages. (each passage is 7-10 days culture), most companies don't go further than 4-6 passages, which gives you enough cells.

:-) This means that theoretically you can not get cancer??? I mean, chances are small..