hairdoubling and beardhair... my experience with dr nigams

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  • wesleybelgium
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 16

    #16
    I understand everybody sceptisch vieuw on hairdoubling , i'm willing to document every update and post it here , the conclusion i let to the professionals , well i will watch how the donor revocers , im willing to try short shaved hairmodels to check if donor is still as good as before , also thr beardhairs on crown and midsection is a intresting case...

    I will post before pictures the clinic took them before they started the procedure so when i get them i will post it here also...

    Well im allready on dutasteride for 5 years and other meds also but still lost ground on
    Top because i boosted my test to high for musclegains so there was no other option then hairdoubling for me... Nothing is safe on higer androgens levels not even with duta and ru and oc and others... Yes i build up a verry muscular body , and yes even with duta i thinned out more... I did not used any dht produkt , only test... So nothing is safe...

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    • idontwant2bebalding
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 48

      #17
      Originally posted by wesleybelgium
      I understand everybody sceptisch vieuw on hairdoubling , i'm willing to document every update and post it here , the conclusion i let to the professionals , well i will watch how the donor revocers , im willing to try short shaved hairmodels to check if donor is still as good as before , also thr beardhairs on crown and midsection is a intresting case...

      I will post before pictures the clinic took them before they started the procedure so when i get them i will post it here also...

      Well im allready on dutasteride for 5 years and other meds also but still lost ground on
      Top because i boosted my test to high for musclegains so there was no other option then hairdoubling for me... Nothing is safe on higer androgens levels not even with duta and ru and oc and others... Yes i build up a verry muscular body , and yes even with duta i thinned out more... I did not used any dht produkt , only test... So nothing is safe...
      Thanks for your time and effort. You don't have to take the time to inform us of your experience, but you do. You deserve many Thanks Wesley!

      I also find your comments about elevation of T' overcoming your 5 years of Duta. use...... very interesting.

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      • Pentarou
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 482

        #18
        Thanks for the update, Wesley.

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          #19
          Originally posted by wesleybelgium
          I understand everybody sceptisch vieuw on hairdoubling , i'm willing to document every update and post it here , the conclusion i let to the professionals , well i will watch how the donor revocers , im willing to try short shaved hairmodels to check if donor is still as good as before , also thr beardhairs on crown and midsection is a intresting case...

          I will post before pictures the clinic took them before they started the procedure so when i get them i will post it here also...

          Well im allready on dutasteride for 5 years and other meds also but still lost ground on
          Top because i boosted my test to high for musclegains so there was no other option then hairdoubling for me... Nothing is safe on higer androgens levels not even with duta and ru and oc and others... Yes i build up a verry muscular body , and yes even with duta i thinned out more... I did not used any dht produkt , only test... So nothing is safe...
          You took steroids?

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          • gc83uk
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1339

            #20
            Wesley thanks for sharing your story so far.

            Some great photos here!

            I think your case should be easy to document, so please ask Dr Nigam for these before photos as soon as you can

            It would be great if we can pick an area in your donor of say 50 or 100 grafts, number all of them and compare the before and after pictures.

            Best of luck to you.

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              #21
              Originally posted by gc83uk
              I think your case should be easy to document, so please ask Dr Nigam for these before photos as soon as you can
              I welcome Wesley's effort to document very much. But I'm not sure how this specific case is 'easy to document', since recipient is diffuse and not shaven. So we can't monitor recipient and thus it's going to be quite impossible to tell how effective it was. Or do I miss something here ?

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              • FearTheLoss
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 1581

                #22
                he doesn't have much donor left, so that's why it should be easy to document...unless of course his recipient area doesn't change much haha

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                • gc83uk
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1339

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  I welcome Wesley's effort to document very much. But I'm not sure how this specific case is 'easy to document', since recipient is diffuse and not shaven. So we can't monitor recipient and thus it's going to be quite impossible to tell how effective it was. Or do I miss something here ?
                  I'm talking about the donor. It's probably more important to check for donor regrowth, plus because Nigam has re-inserted something like 450 grafts into the donor area, in effect it's like checking the recipient and donor all in one.

                  Granted it's not a perfect case, but because the donor is so thin, it should be easy to spot the new hairs. That's all.

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                  • gc83uk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1339

                    #24
                    Double post.

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #25
                      Originally posted by gc83uk
                      I'm talking about the donor. It's probably more important to check for donor regrowth, plus because Nigam has re-inserted something like 450 grafts into the donor area, in effect it's like checking the recipient and donor all in one.

                      Granted it's not a perfect case, but because the donor is so thin, it should be easy to spot the new hairs. That's all.
                      Monitoring the donor alone isn't going to give us reliable stats on the effectiveness of the procedure. We really need to be able to monitor recipient too. Totally agree with the people who said Nigams should get a NW6-7 to perform his procedures on.

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1339

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Arashi
                        Monitoring the donor alone isn't going to give us reliable stats on the effectiveness of the procedure. We really need to be able to monitor recipient too. Totally agree with the people who said Nigams should get a NW6-7 to perform his procedures on.
                        Obviously

                        But we will find out if it's not working just by monitoring this particular area, what we won't know is exactly how effective it is until we have a high NW as I suggested recently, seems to have been ignored that point other than yourself and Didi.... Anyway, it's still a step forward and documentation of just this donor area should be pursued.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          #27
                          Originally posted by gc83uk
                          Anyway, it's still a step forward
                          A very very small step But of course it does add SOMETHING and I'm happy Wesley is willing to take the time to keep us informed.

                          But really, Dr Nigams, get a NW7, SLICK bald scalp and give him 15.000 grafts. Make good professional photo's and you'll have planes full of people to India. The mere fact that after a year he still hasn't done that, make me believe his technique really might not be as good as he claims ...

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Arashi
                            A very very small step But of course it does add SOMETHING and I'm happy Wesley is willing to take the time to keep us informed.

                            But really, Dr Nigams, get a NW7, SLICK bald scalp and give him 15.000 grafts. Make good professional photo's and you'll have planes full of people to India. The mere fact that after a year he still hasn't done that, make me believe his technique really might not be as good as he claims ...
                            NW7 to NW1 and I'm willing to give this guy lots and LOTS of money. Until I see solid proof, my bank account isn't going to budge.

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                            • idontwant2bebalding
                              Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 48

                              #29
                              Wesley is the EXACT test case I want to see. He is using and has used multiple 5ar type I/II inhibitors and is still thinning. He must be really battling the genetic side of AGA. If Dr. Nigam can help him. He can help EVERYBODY! If Wesley grows hair that is androgen resistant, that is the Holy Grail!

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                #30
                                Originally posted by idontwant2bebalding
                                Wesley is the EXACT test case I want to see. He is using and has used multiple 5ar type I/II inhibitors and is still thinning. He must be really battling the genetic side of AGA. If Dr. Nigam can help him. He can help EVERYBODY! If Wesley grows hair that is androgen resistant, that is the Holy Grail!
                                That's all nice and all, but how do you determine if Wesley really has more hair on his scalp than before ? And if there's more hair, how do you determine this is 100% of the amount of grafts and not 40% for example ? From a scientific proof point of view, Wesley's case unfortunately is not going to be very helpful. We need a slick bald NW7.

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