hairdoubling and beardhair... my experience with dr nigams

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  • wesleybelgium
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 16

    hairdoubling and beardhair... my experience with dr nigams

    hello everybody , so heres my review of my experience with dr nigams...

    a quick history of myself :
    hairloss started with me when i was 18 years... now i am 31 years old...
    i started meds and first ht in 2008 ( 2700 grafts fut in istanbul) , then after that i did a fue in belgium (2509 grafts).
    i use alot of meds , and the last 2 years i'm doing bodybuilding as a hobby , no need to say that higher testosteronlevels for musclegrowth
    are nog so good for people like me with mpb , so to cut this short, my hair took a beating over 2 years time... i was schocked to see my crown , normally
    i style my hair with bit of fibers also, and it looks always great , i style it 365 days every year , so when i got to see my before pics was a schock to me...

    so what where my options ? i could not do a big fue , because of my almost done donor... i'm a hard case for clinics because of my low donor left...
    so i readed more into acell , dp culture and this hairdoubling... verry intresting for people with lower donor, or just people that dont want to thin out there donor.
    i watched the posts of this hairdoubling on the forums , and contacted dr nigams for this procedure...
    i arranged vacation on my work , and filled in application for india visum , airplaintickets , and dr nigams arranged me a good hotel not far from the clinic...

    It seemed Boldy wanted to go there also for his experiment so we staid at same hotel.

    arrived at mumbai
    i got picked up at the airport of mumbai by a driver of dr nigams , they drived me to the hotel (4-star svenska hotel) verry nice hotel with options to eat european foods...
    after a good nightrest , i got a phonecall of dr nigams to arrange a hour of pickup , so we can talk and see what is possible.
    when arriving in the clinic dr nigams was waithing for me at the reception , he is verry nice and realistic for what is possible and what my expectations are...
    to save time for the next day they suggest to shave my head for extraction , i asked dr nigams if its possible to keep my hair long on top , they could to the transplant
    without of shaving on top , so the nurses only shaved the sides and back of the head , so i got a hairstyle that still covers my head on top , to keep it as invisible for
    my work and friends as possible when i return to belgium...
    dr nigams showed me his other clinic , so he has 2 clinics in mumbai , and i have seen his testperson in real life with the tatoo-dots on his donor and recipiant
    for his hairdoubling case studie , and seen also the regrowth on the frontal zone on this testperson with his activated stemcell injections.*
    dr nigams asked me if i had done a bloodtest , every patient needs to do a bloodtest to check bloodvalue and check for hiv , i have done 2 transplants in the past but i had
    never been asked to do a hiv bloodtest before , its for patient and staff safety he told me , so its verry safe to do a hairtransplant in india , sinds your first checked
    in his clinic , before they do any procedure... so his nurses taked some blood for lab-tests , and after this i got back at the hotel to rest some more.

    the next day , procedure time...
    i got picked up at the hotel and deliverd to the clinic , here the reception called the lab to know the blood-test results , so this was a bit stressy to see what they find
    after getting all the bloodtest results everything was good , no hiv thankgod and with the other tests they see if your blood is not to thin or anything else ,everything was good
    the nurses escorted me to the clinic on the first floor , they applyed prylox on the donor and recepiant area , a local anesthetic so you feel the priks less of the anesthetic-syringes.
    they also use ice with the injections so you dont feel any pain, after a few pain-checks they started to extract the donorhairs , after a few hours they extracted a total of 1042 grafts
    that they doubled with cutting under thereoscopic microscope with androidsystem on top (so i could follow it to see how they cut my grafts)
    i got to eat a bit upstairs , while they complete the doubling procedure, they coock or order whatever you want to eat...*
    after doubling they had 2084 grafts , to ensure donor recovery and keep backup on my donor for future procedures they put 450 grafts back in the donor..
    the remaining 1634 grafts are inplanted in the hairline and frontal zone of the head , to densify the frontal zone more..
    also a part of my chesthairs where extracted also , for dp survival , to boost the grafts , they inject activated stemcells with prp and growthfactors in donor and recepiant zone.
    before i forget , the grafts are injected in the skin , no slits... so no bleeding... and grafts are verry tight deep in the skin , at the end they clean everything and apply
    ecm cream with growthfactors mixed in and put it on the donor and recepiant zone to boost healing , and apply some bandage to keep donor protected and keep of any swellings in the face.
    they gave me a spraybottle with growthfactors in it , to spray on the recepiant zone , and some medications : anti-inflammatory , antibiotics and other...
    the staff on the clinic work hard , the doubling and inplantation between my long hair on top makes it just more difficult and takes some more time to complete , in the evening the
    driver takes me back to my hotel so i can rest for the procedure next day.

    next day i had good breakfast in the hotel and got picked up by nigams driver...
    at the clinic the doctor discuss what my options are , we go for extraction of beardhairs , and double these , to densify the crown and mid section of the head , the first day i allready
    talked this over also , so i had allready trimmed my beard in the hotel , to safe time...
    they applyed prylox on the beard and recepiant zones (mid section + crown) after local anesthetic on the beard they started difuse extraction of beardhairs...
    after extraction they started to double the beardhairs , they told me that its limited this doubling sinds they can only double straith beardhairs , and alot are no suitibel for doubling...
    so while they doing the doubling i go to the upper floor to eat my orderd chicken sandwich from subway sandwiches...
    after a good meal i was escorted back to the procedure room , where the staff was waithing to start local anesthetics on the mid section and crown , the extracted hairs ( 631 grafts) where
    doubled for 200 grafts more , so the total grafts where 831 grafts.
    the inplantation took a bit longer now sinds they need to follow the crown hairdirections , beardhairs where difuse injected in mid-section and crown area...
    i didnt had much notice of the hours that goes by sinds i was watching englisch movies that i had chosen ( he has sattelite tv with large choise of englisch movies , all new movies)
    they also extract more chesthairs for again , graft dp support , and got injections of his activated stemcells with prp and growthfactors....
    after the procedure they put on every zone some ecm cream with growthfactors mixed in , to boost healing...
    it was in the evening and i got drived back at my hotel , i eat there something from the roomservice and talked with my family some , and go to my bed to sleep.

    the next days i go to the clinic for some checkups, cleaning bandages and for a few injects with prp , growthfactors (not sure if this time there was also activated stemcells, cant remember)
    i got also some tubes ecm creme with me for in the hotel , i must say that i did not had any pains , not in the procedure , and not after the procedure , so the optional painkillers they gave
    me i didnt take these , also the healing is spectacular , i had never seen so fast healing , dont know if this is from his stemcells or prp or growthfactors , maybe its the combination that
    does the trick , also i have seen on my chest that the extracted grafts are recovering, first time i see new hairs growing out of extracted holes...
    almost 30 extractionpoints on the chest grow new hairs, there many grafts that look thicker and grow faster then hairs that are arround the extracted zone , verry strange...
    a few hairs i helped to get trough the skin , dont know if i need to do this , or that the hairs over time push trough , but a few holes i push on the skin a bit and i pull hairs out the
    skin that are 1 cm in length , or even longer... is it with his activated stemcells , or the growthfactors , i have never seen anything like this before...
    and i had watched them removing the chesthairgrafts , they dubbelchecked at the end , so how is this possible ? you can forget a graft its possible , but i have seen 30 grafts generating new hairs ?


    so this i my revieuw for now , ill be posting updates with pictures...
    for now this are my update pictures for now : also have i documented the regrowth hairs on the chest so you see clearly they grow out of the extracted holes...
    i'm curious what the results will be , if this work , yes or no , time will tell....

    ps sorry for my English its not to well.
  • wesleybelgium
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 16

    #2
    postup : 6 days after...

    here some pictures taken day 6...
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    • wesleybelgium
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 16

      #3
      postup : 7 days after...

      heres day 7 pics :
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      • wesleybelgium
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 16

        #4
        postup : 10 days after...

        here some home taken fotos with sunlight on head...
        so in normal lighting it looks a bit denser then this pictures with direkt sunlight on top...

        wil make future pictures with sunlight and normal inhouse light... so you see the difference...
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        • wesleybelgium
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 16

          #5
          chest : regrowht of extracted bodyhairs...

          hope the pictures are clear enough...

          from 300+ extracted hairs , are growing 30 back , with thicker density then the remaining bodyhairs , and they grow faster...
          also i helped 10 hairs getting trough the skin , dont know if they would go trough over time...

          dont know why i see here regrowth , i applyed also a high dosed growthfactormix , or is it because the activated stemcell , not sure...
          but its clear that its new hair , growing out of the extractiondots...
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          • TheSwingingGate
            Member
            • May 2013
            • 85

            #6
            WesleyBelgium, thank you for sharing.
            Good luck with your recovery.

            Have you been on Propecia during your bodybuilding training?
            I am an avid trainer as well, so I am curious to know how this went along with your muscle gains.

            Also, you said you lost ground with your hair during this time.

            If you don't mind answering (I understand if not), what type of supplements, etc. were you taking during this time?

            Thanks!

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            • sausage
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1064

              #7
              Why is Nigam testing his work on someone with the majority of his hair?

              We need to see a slick bald man, getting this treatment. hmmmm.

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              • veca
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 219

                #8
                Originally posted by sausage
                Why is Nigam testing his work on someone with the majority of his hair?

                We need to see a slick bald man, getting this treatment. hmmmm.

                What are you talking about?? This boy is progressing towards NW6! He had hair transplant approx 5000 grafts before Dr. Nigam procedure!

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                • veca
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 219

                  #9
                  Wesley, thank you for sharing your experience with us. You do not have such a bad donor region. I wish you the best of luck in recovery and I hope you will get the results that you expect. Just tell me have you coming back to Mumbai for another treatment, or ..? How many grafts transplanted total? What is your goal, NW2 and what density?

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1372

                    #10
                    we need

                    For more information go to: http://www.dermhairclinic.com/To consult Dr Umar, click: http://www.dermhairclinic.com/free-online-consultation-hair-restoration-...

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                    • brunobald
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 172

                      #11
                      from 300+ extracted hairs , are growing 30 back , with thicker density then the remaining bodyhairs , and they grow faster...
                      Is it possible these were failed extractions that pushed the follicule deeper into the skin.

                      Have you seen any scalp graft holes sprout hairs too?

                      Cheers

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                      • One
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 132

                        #12
                        Please, please, can be summed up in bold and clearly written what has been done in the procedure? (extracted grafts and grafted total, prp, print cells, etc.).

                        We are all here to work together, but each individual case that is posted by Dr. Nigam or a patient is always extremely confusing, and I'm sorry to repeat myself unprofessional.

                        However my advice and I hope that is accepted, given that if you post something on the forum is to have it read to others, it would be appropriate to use the criteria to make things neat and orderly. By doing so you gain you and we make ourselves. We all are winners.

                        I hope you will improve in the future. It 's really important that you manage to make us understand what you do in a clear, if not, the documentation has no value!


                        Place a clinical case of Koray as an example:


                        ASMED Hair Treatments - Dr Koray Erdogan


                        3124 FUE grafts extracted with manual punch in titanium, diameter 0.7 - 0.9 mm.


                        Engravings by: custom made blades, lateral slit


                        412 Single grafts

                        911 Double grafts

                        1801 Multiple grafts















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                        • Boldy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 287

                          #13
                          wesley, where are your before pictures that where taken on day 1?

                          It might be handy to post for baseline judgement.


                          I hope you heal fast man!

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #14
                            Wesley, thanks for reporting here. It will be interesting to follow your case although I'd have to agree with the others that you're far from an ideal test person. A NW6-7 slick bald would be ideal, not someone with diffuse hairloss (well actually due to your previous treatments).

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #15
                              Actually, I wonder how we can even monitor your case. It's impossible to watch the recipient so it will be impossible to tell if your hair really doubled or that it was just a regular FUE.

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