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12-13-2013 04:04 PM
#2001
Here's a simple rule of thumb- no pain, no gain. You better bleed and your scalp better be red otherwise you're NOT doing it properly. Also, doing it once a month is not enough.
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12-13-2013 04:13 PM
#2002
On what basis? Thumbing around skin care forums people scoff at people doing treatments more than once a month, purporting that it is far too often for collagen induction to work effectively. I'm not saying neither of us are without burdens of proof, but when you make claims like that, what is the basis?
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12-13-2013 04:30 PM
#2003
Has anyone experienced a dulling DR? I wonder what the life expectancy is of a DR.
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12-13-2013 07:22 PM
#2004
Originally Posted by awesome1
Got my roller almost 2 months ago, have been decreasing frequency to once a month of treatments based on the healing process timeline and recommendations from forums where people have been using it for skin care. The only other major thing in my regiment is 1% keto (and daily vitamins and ginko biloba), I'm not sure if I've seen regrowth yet or if they're broken hairs, I'm also noticing many vellus hairs where the hair is thin enough to spot em, but I'm not sure if that's a new development. I've been on keto shampoo 3 months now.
I'm cautiously optimistic, whats frustrating is my thinning crown is far back enough I have difficulties gauging how bad it really looks most the time.
I don't know. Yeah, guys using the dermaroller say you should not use it more than once a month... but we don't know if that is enough for us... remember, all those people use the dermaroller as a therapy for the induction of new collagen... welll, we don't. We do it because of the growth factors released during wounding... waiting a month may very well be enough for those who are just waiting to heal... as all those on skin-care therapy... but is the promotion of the factors asociated with wounding once a month enough for us?
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12-13-2013 07:29 PM
#2005
Originally Posted by awesome1
I have medium length hair (for a guy anyway) and it's difficult getting the top of my scalp done with a 540 roller, dunno if it'd be any easier with a 192 roller, I get some bleeding, but most of it is on the temples, where it's easier to get the roller. Kinda tough if I'm getting it on the crown, but I'm definitely super sensitive across the scalp the next few days so I imagine I'm doing fine. I definitely break a lot of hairs with it every roll, another reason I've reduced frequency of rolls. (It's also made me confused whether I see real regrowth or just broken hairs now)
I hope I'm still getting my scalp sufficiently, my crown is what worries me most. I'm tempted to spend a little more on a 192 but am not sure if it will be a dramatic enough difference. Anyone used both kinds and have noticed much difference? People say the 540 causes the "bed of needles" effect but I haven't heard that from anyone who's actually reported to try both.
I can feel it sink into the flesh on my temples (god it's weird), but don't get the same sensation at the crown, where there's more hair in the way.
Everyone complaining about tangled and broken hairs is on 540 neddles... go to 192, it won't mess with your hair... well, it will, but it will be much less than the 540...
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12-13-2013 07:55 PM
#2006
I been rolling once every two weeks. this is working for me, no doubt about it. As I said before, my results are completely pathetic... very small hairs... but they are everywhere on my hairline... an I bet my whole scalp is the same (but I still have too much hair to see it there)... this hairs are so, so small, but they were not there, and I have been using minox for two years... so I know this is the dermaroller in action... I don't really think this hairs will be as long and wide as normal hair, and if they do, I'm sure it will take a a lot of hair cycles before that happens (if it happens at all)... if they keep growing at the same rate... it will probable take a couple of years...
Anyway, I don't really care about those small hairs... I care about the hair on my scalp which is still in good shape... If the dermaroller is giving me all these small new hairs everywhere, I'm sure it must be doing something for my existing hair too.. and that's what I want... to save what I still got...
I stopped rolling for more than a month... I just got lazy... but I'm going at it again starting january first at full force... I'm going to do it for a full year...
Yeah guys... this is paifully slow... even if the study said so, don't mind if you don't see any results at the three month mark, in fact, you probably won't... but got to keep rolling...
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12-14-2013 07:40 AM
#2007
Originally Posted by chimera
I don't know. Yeah, guys using the dermaroller say you should not use it more than once a month... but we don't know if that is enough for us... remember, all those people use the dermaroller as a therapy for the induction of new collagen... welll, we don't. We do it because of the growth factors released during wounding... waiting a month may very well be enough for those who are just waiting to heal... as all those on skin-care therapy... but is the promotion of the factors asociated with wounding once a month enough for us?
As far as length of time between rolls, no one knows what is best yet, I have been doing it 1x a week for 6 weeks till bloody, this last week my head where I roll itched so bad for the whole week, I was going nuts. it wasn't a shed itch either, if it was and I shed that bad I wouldn't have any hair left. I may wait 10 days between rolls, maybe I wasn't giving it enough time to heal
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12-15-2013 10:10 PM
#2008
Quick question.
Why go with 1.5 mm? If deeper is better, I can handle 2.5 mm.
BTW, I did my first dermaroll last week. I liked it. Even though I drew no blood, I think that's ok for the first roll. I will be going in harder next time.
I'm hopeful and looking forward to the next roll. Now if I could begin a Minox treatment, then it's only a matter of finding which route I want to take in terms of DHT blocking. (Too many alternatives).
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12-16-2013 05:06 AM
#2009
Originally Posted by PrettyFly83
Very good results!
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12-16-2013 09:59 AM
#2010
Senior Member
Nice improvement man, definitely hairs sprouting there
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